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Introduction

This page discusses grinding edge tools using a Belt Sander. Grinding forms the blade away from the edge. Other pages on this site discuss an overview of grinding, grinding using a bench stone, and the sharpening process, which includes both grinding and honing.

A 1" belt sander will let you create primary bevels on most edge tools relatively quickly, once you replace the tool rest. It is easy to grind at any desired angle, with little danger of overheating provided you use sharp abrasive belts.

Powered grinders (belt or wheel) are not the only option for grinding the primary bevel. You can use bench stones. I usually do.

NOTE Both the belt sander and the bench stones produce a flat primary bevel. It is very difficult to freehand (without a jig) hone a plane blade or chisel with a flat primary bevel. If you won't be using a jig to hone, then you should probably hollow grind your tools using a grinding wheel.

Warning - Misuse of any grinder can result in serious injury. In the standard position the belt is turning toward the tool. If you move the tool too quickly into the belt it can catch - possibly destroying the belt, possibly pulling the tool from your hands and flipping it around the room. Inattention around a spinning abrasive belt can lead to injury.

Put the tool on the tool rest away from the belt. Move the tool up the tool rest until it makes contact with the belt.

There is never a need for excessive force. If the belt is not cutting it is worn. It is almost certainly overheating the tool. Time for a new belt.

I have never had a problem with a belt but have received reports of even good belts having problems. Be careful.

Contents

  1. Belt Sander or Grinding Wheel
  2. Belt Sanders -- There are lots of choices.
  3. Replacement tool rest -- You will need to make a suitable tool rest.
  4. Setting the tool rest angle - Make a small cutoff for your usual angles.
  5. Edge Shaping -- An occasional need, somewhat different from forming the primary.
  6. Forming the Primary -- Shaping the tool without damaging the edge.
  7. Grinding Wheel Geometry -- A little help for people using grinding wheels.
    1. Actual angles.
    2. Setting the tool rest angle.
    3. General belt-sander/grinder Tool rest alert.
  8. Website Navigation -- Where am I?

Belt Sander or Grinding Wheel

Many woodworkers already have a grinding wheel - you might too. Should you still get a belt sander for grinding edge tools? I tried both - the grinding wheel first. I bought several different tool rests for the grinding wheel and spent some time messing up my tools. Then I bought a belt sander and started getting good primary bevels as soon as I replaced the original tool rest (see below).

Here are a few of the reasons why I prefer a belt sander:

  • Range of abrasives. I have belts in grits from 48 to 15 micron - perhaps 8 different grits. Most people only own wheels in 1 or two grits. At around $2 a belt, owning many grits is no problem.
  • Ease of grit change. It takes less than a minute to switch belts. It takes a long time to switch wheels.
  • Belts are always flat. You have to regularly true the face of a wheel. Truing produces clouds of abrasive particles.
  • Belts are less likely to glaze with filings. The abrasive particles on belts are coated with a slippery compound. The belt flexes as it passes around the wheels. You can use a big eraser to clean the belt of the few filings that do stick.
  • There are some fantastic belts. 3M makes a belt using the 15 micron Silicon Carbide micro finishing abrasive. Norton makes belts using "seeded-gel" technology.
  • It is easy to set the tool rest angle on a belt sander to any angle you want. Setting the angle accurately on a wheel is a challenge.
  • Belts run cooler than wheels. The greater length of the surface area means more time for the belt to cool before it again reaches the tool.
  • Belts runs slower than wheels. Typical abrasive speed for a belt is 3,150 fps, for a 6" wheel is 5,400 fps, for an 8" wheel 7,200. Heat generated is directly proportional to abrasive speed.
  • Belts produce less airborne dust than wheels. The softer wheels common these days produce a constant cloud of abrasive particles. Belts produce less dust because the binder is tougher. Both produce far must airborne dust than a bench stone.

Belt Sanders

Just about any belt sander can be used to shape the primary bevel by grinding. Options I discuss here include:

People have even clamped portable belt sanders upside down in a vise and use them. People also race portable belt sanders.

delta belt sander

1" vertical belt sander

I originally got this belt sander to sharpen lathe tools. I now use it for grinding for all of my edge tools (including shovels, axes, ...).

The belt sander came with a large tool rest which could not be set to the angles needed for grinding edge tools - typically in the 20 to 30 degree range. You will have to make a new tool rest - details below.

A 120 grit AlO (Aluminum Oxide) abrasive belt will quickly shape tool steel without over heating. Where a lot of grinding is required though -- when changing the bevel angle on a plane iron -- a grit as low as 60 should be used.

While it works very well as a grinder (rough shaping of the bevels), I don't believe any high speed abrasive should be used for honing (finishing the edge). High speed abrasives heat the edge very quickly, especially at finer grits (finer than 120) and even more if the abrasive is a little worn. I have belts with grits as small as 15 micron, but no longer use them.

A 1" belt sander can replace a grinding wheel for many sharpening applications. I have both, but now only use the grinding wheel when removing lots of metal, and almost never on edge tools.

I happen to own a Delta, but have seen many knock off versions that appear identical. The knock offs are usually in the $60 range.

Harbor Freight

harbor freight belt sander Wow - even better. Harbor Freight sells this little gem. It does not have the useless sanding wheel but does have the useless tool rest which you will have to remove and replace with a tool rest like the one below. At $40 this is a great buy. Not only cheaper than a grinding wheel, as well as better for the reasons discussed below, it costs less than the after market tool rest most people buy for their grinding wheel.

In February 2008 this was here on the Harbor Freight web site. While you are there, get some belts - the price looks good but I have not used the belts so have no idea how well they work. (No affiliation.)

In fact, I have not used this belt sander - Harbor Freight does not ship to Canada. However, for the limited amount of grinding you will do I would be very surprised if it ever wears out.

The Harbor Freight unit is the basis of a knife sharpening setup ("Edgemaster Blade Sharpener"). In a recent email conversation with the developer of the system, I learned that he has sold 400 units based on the Harbor Freight belt sander. He has had no complaints about quality problems. He does advise against the belts that Harbor Freight sells - they use Klingspor belts exclusively. Edgemaster is now a Franchiser of a Knife Sharpening business.

Update: Peter Schumacher sent me an email, which said (among other things): "Your Harbor Freight sander is a dead ringer for my Woodtek sander. I have owned and used it for over 10 years. I'm a hobby woodworker, mostly wooden toys and small furniture pieces. I use it mainly it smooth curved toy pieces. I have gone through dozens of belts with no problems. I have sanded with enough pressure to bring the motor to a stall many times. No problems at all." Looks like an good alternative!

Tool Rest Replacement

shop made tool rest The tool rest supplied with this belt sander cannot be set to the angles required for edge tools -- typically in the 20 to 30 degree range. You will have to make a replacement. Here is my replacement! I started with a bit of angle iron,
  • removed the short side with a hack saw to get a flat piece of steel,
  • drilled a slot for the attachment machine bolt - the lower slot on the short side - three holes then a bit of filing,
  • bent it to (very nearly) 90 degrees.
The result -- a 4" by 1.5" piece of metal, bent so the tool rest is 2.5" wide.

Tools used: hack saw, small metal vise, drill press, high speed steel drill bit, file. Depending on your skill with a hacksaw, this could take 15 minutes. The metal should be fairly stiff but there is not a lot of downward pressure on the tool rest during use.

shop made tool rest The replacement tool rest does not look a lot better when installed, but it works.

Here, the tool rest is set at 25 degrees.

Since I do almost all my plane iron grinding at 25 degrees, I use an offcut with a 25 degree angle on the side to set the tool rest (see below).

For other angles I use an adjustable plastic protractor. You can set a bevel gauge from a protractor and use that.

One of the big advantages of a belt sander is the ease and accuracy of setting the angle. Because the abrasive is flat, not curved, one entire surface of the scrap rests flat on the abrasive and one rests on the tool rest. (With a grinding wheel, the scrap is tangent to the wheel over a very short distance, a more difficult setting.)

This really is all you need. No fancy tool rest because I do all my grinding freehand! A little strange for someone who uses a jig for honing, but I can freehand the grinding step because I almost never grind the edge itself! See more about how much to grind in the grinding overview page, at my From New to Sharp page, and at my Sharpening Radiused Blades page.

Setting the tool rest angle - belt sander angle setting jig This is my snazzy double ended angle setting jig - one end 25 degrees, the other end 20 degrees. This one cutoff handles 99% of my grinding angles.

As you can see, setting the angle is foolproof. What you can't see, so will have to take me word for it, is that setting the angle takes 5 seconds once you find the jig.

angle setting jig A quick sketchup drawing of the jig. If you have a protractor, just draw the lines at the angles you want and rip off the scrap. If you don't have a protractor, use the ratio from this drawing to measure down the side to get the right angle.

angle setting jig Here it is after the waste has been cut off.

The total length does not matter, nor does the thickness.

Having trouble seeing this jig? A bit too Escherian? The next picture may be a little easier.

Larry Williams belt sander jig

Larry Williams' vertical belt sander

These pictures are intended to illustrate possible belt sander setups. They should not be taken to imply that either Derek or Larry use a belt sander to grind plane blades or chisels. If you want to find out about how Larry grinds, you can look through the various woodworking forums where Larry is a regular contributor.

Larry Williams uses a much more substantial belt sander, part of a grinder/sander combination machine.

You can see that his shop made tool rest allows very small grinding angles, and allows him to grind complex tools like this gouge. The wider abrasive would also allow more evenness in grinding wide tools like plane blades.

At first it appears that Larry chose to position his tool rest so that the tool hits the belt below the platen (belt support). In fact, he as just taken a notch out of the side of the platen. If you look closely, you can see the platen side below the tool rest, and the platen itself under the belt. So, the platen is continuous from well above to well below the area in use.

A nice design. This is clearly a much more substantial setup than mine. With practice, I think most people could do some pretty good free hand grinding on this machine with a tool rest like this.

Larry's grinder was written up in more detail in a Woodnet discussion in 2007 that has since disappeared.

Dereks belt sander jig

Derek Cohen's horizontal belt sander

Again, this picture simply illustrates a belt sander setup. If you want to find out about how Derek grinds, you can look through the various woodworking forums where Derek is a regular contributor.

Derek Cohen from Perth Australia uses a much bigger belt sander and has built a tool holder for it. He describes it here.

The bevel angle is determined by the extension of the edge from the front of the tool holder. The jig slides back and forth on the bar, much like a Tormek (according to Derek, I have not seen a Tormek).

I am not sure why Derek chose to set an extension from a jig which holds the blade rather than use a tool rest (as both Larry and I did). Perhaps it would be hard to use a tool rest with a horizontal belt.

grinding the edge, blade square to belt

Edge Shaping

There are two very different types of grinding. The first, which I call edge shaping, you will do only when the edge is chipped (you tried to plane a nail) or you want to change the shape/camber of the edge.

Edge shaping is discussed in detail in the Sharpening Radiused Blades page.

As you can see in this picture, during edge shaping the blade is at 90 degrees to the belt. You can just see the tool rest in front of my fingers - it is parallel to the belt with the blade resting on the edge of the tool rest (it happens I cannot set my tool rest to 90 degrees, so set it a 0 degrees and use the edge).

I usually mark the desired shape on the back of the blade and grind down to that line.

Some light on grinding and heat

The amount of heat you generate during grinding is a function of the pressure and number of grit particles.

More grit particles means more heat. More pressure means more heat.

Grinding speed is also a function of grit size and pressure. Larger grit (smaller grit number) and more pressure both result in faster metal removal.

Surface area in contact with the abrasive also affects heat generated - larger surface area means more heat.

Finally, thickness of metal affects the heat the tool reaches during grinding - thinner tools get hotter since they are less able to carry heat away from the edge.

All of these factors favour edge shaping with the tool square to the abrasive.

When shaping the edge, I am not trying to form the primary. Once I have the desired edge shape (which can be straight if I am just removing a nick), I switch to the second type of grinding - forming the primary bevel.

Forming the Primary

Forming the primary bevel prepares the tool for honing. This section shows how I form the primary using my 1" belt sander.

holding the iron

Holding the blade

The fingers of my left hand pull against the back of the tool rest, the thumb pressing forward against the tool rest and the blade. I am squeezing the tool rest, rather than pressing down on it or lifting up on it. The left hand braces the sharpening operation, providing the necessary control.

The fingers of my right hand are below the rest and behind the blade. My right thumb is on the front of the blade at about the same level as my left thumb. Most of the control comes from my left thumb, which pushes the blade to the right, then draws it back to the left. The right thumb is a follower, not a leader in this operation.

You should practice moving the blade back and forth, up and down, with the belt sander turned off. You should have a smooth back-and-forth motion which brings the whole blade in contact with the abrasive. You should also be able to move the blade up into the abrasive, or back down away from the abrasive smoothly. When you are confident of the motion, then try it with the sander actually running. The blade should be down, away from the belt when you turn the belt sander on.

Primary bevel angles

Grinding the primary shapes the tool for honing. Honing with very fine abrasives requires that the microbevel angles be larger than the existing bevel angle. I have found that honing the first microbevel works best if the first microbevel angle is 4 degrees or more larger than the primary bevel angle.

Working back from the desired final microbevel angle gives me a primary bevel angle of 25 degrees for most plane blades. In some cases other angles work. For example, if you are only planing along the grain on softwoods without knots, you can reduce the final microbevel angle by from 5 to 10 degrees. You would decrease the primary bevel angle by the same amount. With some tool steels and some woods a larger final angle may be required. You are safe to start with 25 degrees and experiment for unusual situations.

what grinding does

Assessing the worn tool

In this drawing, the vertical red/chestnut line represents the abrasive, the black line the outline of the blade. The short angled black line at the top of the blade represents the old microbevels and the wear bevel prior to grinding. The green line the new primary bevel after grinding. The more you grind the more the green line moves to the left.

This drawing represents the ideal case - the old primary is already at the correct angle. With some new blades and almost all used blades that have been ground by people unaware of the importance of the primary angle, the old primary angle will not be correct. You can decide which one of three situations you are facing if you put a relatively fine abrasive belt (600 grit) on the belt sander and do a light pass across the blade. Look at the bevel and decide where the belt is scratching the primary.

ScratchCurrent angleAction
Scratches only at the edge. Primary less than desired angle. Stop right now and hone the tool. Most planes will work just fine with a primary a little less than 25 degrees. You may as well hone the tool and see if it works. If it is too weak (a plane blade that chatters), then you can grind it back a little farther then hone again.
Scratches only at the base of the bevel. Primary more than desired angle. You cannot hone the plane blade until the primary bevel reaches almost to the edge. Extended grinding is required.

Switch to a very low grit - I often use 40 grit if a large blade needs a lot of grinding. These very low grits usually don't heat the blade up very much, but you should still check for over heating every 5 or 10 seconds.

The pattern - a few quick light back and forth passes, dip in water, look at the progress you are making. The primary should be uniform across the blade and approaching the edge. If the primary is farther from the edge in one part of the blade, work that part a little more.

When the primary grind gets within 1/32 of the edge, switch to a higher grit, perhaps 120, and continue until the primary is almost at the edge.

With particularly bad blades the primary may approach the edge near one side of the blade but not the other. This usually means the original blade had a higher included angle on one side than the other. This is not at all unusual. Still, stop before you reach the edge and try to hone the blade on 15 micron paper. This honing will give you a straight edge, square to the sides, across part of the blade.

Go back to the grinder, work the primary again stopping just before the edge. The primary should extend across more of the blade. Alternate honing and grinding until the honed microbevel is the full width of the blade and less than 1/32nd of an inch.

Scratches across the full width of the blade, from the base of the bevel almost to the edge. Primary already at the desired angle. This must be a blade you ground before. Grind using 120 grit, checking progress of the primary bevel toward the edge ever 5 to 10 seconds. Keep the blade cool.
blade scan, shows microbevels needing to be ground off

Controlling the process

As usual with stock removal, start on the high area. If one part of the blade needs more grinding, work back and forth in that area first. As the high area is ground down, gradually extend the motion to include the full width of the blade.

The sparks are hidden under the blade, so you cannot really see where the belt and blade meet. If the edge appears to be square to the belt, you are probably pretty close.

After 10 seconds in light contact with the abrasive, dip the tool into water. There should be no steam or bubbling on the surface on the tool. Each time you dip the blade into the water, check your progress on the bevel side. If you find you are grinding one side more than the other, you can correct the problem by rotating the blade a few degrees on the tool rest. For example, if you need to take more off the left side of the blade (when viewing the bevel), then you want to work the right side a bit more (viewed from the back) so tilt the blade a bit to the left (raise the right corner). A very small tilt should be all that is required.

Grinding pressure is exerted by pushing the blade up along the tool rest into the belt. Remember you are squeezing the blade and tool rest, not pushing the tool against the tool rest. The light upward pressure, from your thumbs, into the belt should produce rapid metal removal. If metal is not being removed quickly with light pressure, there is a problem with the belt.

A fresh 120 grit belt will take off lots of metal without heating the blade. As the abrasive on the belt dulls, metal removal slows and the blade starts to heat up more. If you notice serious heating, try a fresh belt. I also have a large rubber eraser for cleaning the belts - these belts can fill with grit from grinding and a clean belt grinds cooler.

I check progress regularly, as I dip the tool in the water, stopping before the new scratches reach the edge.

I have another page that includes a number of actual size images of a plane blade bevel during grinding. Scroll about half way down the page.

Grinding Wheel Geometry

Some people are able to grind reliable angles on tools with a bench grinder. I have tried. I bought the jigs. I bolted them down. I still failed to get a consistent primary bevel. I bought a belt sander to sharpen wood turning chisels, quickly found that the tool rest that came with the belt sander could not be used when sharpening tools. I built the rest you see in the above pictures. I have found it easy to use for grinding primary bevels. I would not have been able to do any of this testing if I did not have this belt sander.

Actual angles.

Grinding Wheel Geometry The big difference between a belt sander and a grinding wheel is that the belt sander leaves a flat bevel. As pointed out by Leonard Lee in his sharpening book, and shown in this drawing, a grinding wheel leaves an arc-shaped bevel - with the actual angle at the edge less than the tool rest angle.

This drawing shows the shape of the bevel when you use a 6" grinding wheel on a standard plane blade (0.09" thick). As a general rule, stiffness is related to the cube of the thickness, so any loss of thickness has a serious effect on resistance to flex (vibration). [The actual angle at the edge is a bit more than 4 degrees less than the tool rest angle. For thicker irons, the error is larger. For larger wheels, the error is smaller.]

While the nominal (tool rest) bevel angle is 25 degrees, the dashed line shows the actual bevel angle at the edge is 21 degrees.

Many people follow the hollow grind with a freehand honing on a fine stone, using the front and back edges of the hollow to balance the blade. This allows them to hone without a jig.

[Thanks to Robert Fortier from the Oldtools list for this drawing]

Setting the tool rest angle.

angle setting jig The same angle setting jig works to set the tool rest angle for a grinding wheel. The drawing shows the cherry off cut resting on the gold coloured tool rest. The jig touches the wheel 1/8" from the corner, setting the correct tool rest angle for a tool with a 1/4" wide bevel.

It is of course much harder to set for a wheel than for a flat belt since it is hard to tell where the wheel touches the angled face of the jig. You should be able to come pretty close though.

If you are going to hone using a jig like mine it is important that the primary angle not be much greater than 25 degrees (the width of the first microbevel depends on the difference between the primary angle and the first microbevel angle). If in doubt, make the primary angle a little smaller (adjust the tool rest so contact is closer to the corner).

General belt-sander/grinder Tool rest alert.

general tool rest This tool rest comes from a General International 15-232 M1 combined belt sander/grinder. This is the tool rest for the grinding wheel. The tool rest is sturdy and works pretty well, with one essential flaw.

If you look at the seat around the locking bolt you see a series of ridges. It turns out there are about 50 of them, arranged radially. There is an identical series of ridges where you attach the tool rest to the cover.

If you were an engineer sitting at a CAD machine you might think this is a really good idea - how better to prevent the tool rest from turning in use?

It turns out this is a horrible idea!

Yes, you can set the tool rest to the angle you want. However, as soon as you start the grinder the vibration causes the tool rest to slip to the nearest rib position. You can see in the picture the bit of metal ground off the inside of the tool rest. This is what happens when the tool rest slips and turns into the belt.

So, with 50 ribs you have 50 possible tool rest positions - or about one every 7 degrees. If you are keen on getting 25 degrees rather than 29 degrees, this is a problem.

The folks at General understood the problem but said they had sold thousands and no one had ever complained before. The man I talked to, Dave, told me that grinding the ribs off would probably solve the problem. I asked him if I should grind them off both the tool rest and the wheel cover. He thought both would be better.

Great customer service.

Looking at their other grinders, it looks like General has standardized on this type of tool rest locking mechanism. If you have any interest in actually setting the tool rest angle you will have to modify it some way first.

Hollow Grind Revisited

Peter Michaux has done an extensive analysis of hollow ground bevel shapes.

In Peter's analysis, he calls the grind pictured above a 21 degree grind, since that is the angle at the edge.

To compare the strength of a flat ground 25 degree bevel to a hollow ground bevel, you would hollow grind at 29 degrees. The resulting bevel is actually thicker on average, and hence possibly stiffer.

If you hone after sharpening by resting the blade so both edges of the hollow are touching, then the angle at the edge increases, returning [approximately] to the angle you thought you had. In the flat ground case, I increase the angle by 4 degrees, putting on a microbevel at 29 degrees. In the hollow grind case, you retain the angle of the arc that crosses the hollow -- by coincidence again 29 degrees.

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