南 北 國 術 邀 請 賽
2004
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| : Nov. 20, 2004 Saturday |
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MacNeil School Gym. 6611 #4 Rd. (Granville Ave), Richmond, BC, Canada (click here to get map) |
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| 1st Place winner - Lungchuan Stick Sword 龍 泉 雙 手 杖 劍 | ||||||
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| Event | Category | Champion | School | Location | |||
| All Around Grand Champion | Andrew | Yuen | Traditionak Kung Fu | Surrey, BC | |||
| G01 | Choreographed Fighting / Synchronized | Donald | Tse | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| G02 | 45 & Over Hand Form | Edward | Laramie | Sil Lum Gungfu | Sherwood Park, AB | ||
| G03 | 45 & Over Weapons | Edward | Laramie | Sil Lum Gungfu | Sherwood Park, AB | ||
| I03 | Internal Hand Form Advanced | Andrew | Yuen | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| I04 | Internal Weapons | Sylvia | Wong | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| I05 | Yangs 24 Advanced | Ronald | Ng | Li Rong Wushu Qigong Academy | Vancouver, BC | ||
| I06 | Chen's Noviced | Jaclyn | Wong | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| I07 | Chen's Advanced | Paul | Tam | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| I10 | Push Hands - Men 145lbs & Over | Ronald | Ng | Li Rong Wushu Qigong Academy | Vancouver, BC | ||
| T001 | Traditional - 8 & Under Hand Form | Ryan | Leung | ShungYing Kungfu | Richmond, BC | ||
| T01 | Traditional - 9 - 12 Hand Form | Andrew | Rasmussen | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T02 | Traditional - 12 & Under Weapons | Andrew | Rasmussen | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T03 | Traditional - 13 - 16 Hand Form Novice | Devan | Ling | ShungYing Kungfu | Richmond, BC | ||
| T04 | Traditional - 13 - 16 Hand Form Advanced | Gordon | Wong | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T05 | Traditional - 13 - 16 Weapons | Jaclyn | Wong | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T06 | Traditional - 17 & Up Hand Forms Novice | Zackary | Ting | ShungYing Kungfu | Richmond, BC | ||
| T07 | Traditional - Hand Form Advanced | Andrew | Yuen | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T09 | Traditional - Weapons | Danny | Yu | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| T10 | Traditional - Kung Lik Kuen (Jing Mo) Novice | Oliver | Hung | Hoy Ping Athletic Group | Vancouver, BC | ||
| T12 | Traditional - Bun Bo (Praying Mantis) | James | Chang | Kungfu Ocean | |||
| T13 | Traditional - Jeet Kuen (Jing Mo) | Rosemary | Cotter | Bamboo Grove | Seattle, WA | ||
| T14 | Traditional - Tiger & Crane (Hung Gar) | Peter | Houliaras | Sil Lum Gungfu | Sherwood Park, AB | ||
| T15 | Traditional - Sup Je Kau Dah (Choi Lee Fat) | Danny | Yu | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| T17 | Traditional - Sabre | Alex | Yuen | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| T18 | Traditional - Staff | Michael | Leung | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| T19 | Traditional - 3-Sectional Staff | Daniel | Iwamoto | Traditional Kungfu | Surrey, BC | ||
| W01 | Wushu - 9 - 12 Hand Form | Jeremy | Ko | JingYing Wushu Culture Center | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W02 | Wushu - 12 & Under Weapons | Samuel | Woo | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W03 | Wushu - 13 - 16 Hand Form Novice | Justin | Ko | JingYing Wushu Culture Center | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W04 | Wushu - 13 - 16 Hand Form Advanced | William | Yan | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W05 | Wushu - 13 - 16 Weapons | Wesley | Shum | ShungYing Kungfu | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W07 | Wushu - Weapons | Earnesto | Wong | Dragon River | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W08 | International Tao Lu - Nan Quan | Candice | Wong | Ken Low's Shaolin Kungfu Institute | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W09 | International Tao Lu - Sabre | Bueno | West Coast Chinese Martial Arts | Vancouver, BC | |||
| W11 | International Tao Lu - Sword | Candice | Wong | Ken Low's Shaolin Kungfu Institute | Vancouver, BC | ||
| W12 | International Tao Lu - Chang Quan | Owen | Chau | Dragon River | Vancouver, BC | ||
It was truly a case of quality over quantity. I brought only 3 students along,
mostly to watch, and one of them remarked, "Wow, an ego-free tournament!"
The awards for the different divisions (and the lack of Pankration/BJJ/San Shou)
made it clear that this tournament was produced out of a genuine desire
to promote traditional arts, and not primarily to make money. I encourage
my students to view tournaments as an opportunity for sharing, and not
primarily as a competition, and I felt that your tournament promoted that
attitude. There are a few changes you may wish to consider for next year.
A generic certificate of participation would be really nice, especially for
people that do not place in the top 3 in a division (although you could
also add 1st - 3rd place certificates too). .......................
There's something I saw in the judging that a more formalized approach might
eliminate. It seemed that judges frequently gave *much* greater value to speed,
as contrasted to balance, expression of power, and clear methods. There
were a few cases where fast - but poorly balanced, weak, and a little bit
sloppy - practitioners scored higher than practitioners who went a little
slower, but were smoother, cleaner, and more powerful. From the stands,
I generally did not disagree with those placing first or second in
different divisions. Those were fairly clear decisions. But I felt that
some of the judges decisions were strange in giving "speed" such high value.
(This is not a gripe about my students, who did not demonstrate forms
of high technical difficulty and so weren't really in the running for
high placement.) Of course, this is just my opinion, and may be held
only by me! Yet, a judges meeting pre-tournament where the judges discuss
what they should be looking for might make the judging more consistent.
Judges looking at video footage together and discussing the strengths
and weaknesses of different performances prior to the tournament goes
a long way towards improving the judging. This kind of judging always
has strong subjective elements that cannot be removed, and I think
that the overall judging was very good. Another thing to consider
might be to try to bring in qualified people to judge who have NO
students participating in the tournament. I know this is a small tournament,
but in BC you have a large community of gung fu practitioners,
so this might be possible. There were certainly a few "conflict of interest"
situations. Finally, my comments are ultimately nit-picking - minor stuff.
I think your tournament is a jewel, and my remarks are only meant to
help it shine a little bit brighter. I look forward to getting some
feedback on the book. I truly appreciate constructive criticism,
and the book certainly still has some problems in a variety of areas.
Best Wishes,
Tor
Wong Sifu,
I'm also sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you. Unfortunately I couldn't
stay for very long because I had an appointment at noon elsewhere in Richmond.
Your tournament was great, it's the only tournament in the Vancouver area which
I consistently make an effort to attend. My favourite part of it is it's a
kung fu tournament and not a martial arts tournament. ..........
Clinton
Jack,
You deserve the credit and high praise of your tournament -- someone took notice.
That fellow's comments are right on the marks........
In addition, his main emphasis throughout is "quality and independence of judges"
which echoed my previous discussions. This will improve the credibility and quality
of the rankings and hence status of the tournament........
CK
The tournament was well organized and the prize was great.
This is one of the best local tournaments in Vancouver.
-ray
The tournament was run very well in fact.
Any major problems...not really. There was the issue about how to score for push hands,
but the judges were already making plans on how to improve for next year, so that was fine.... Basically you guys did a good job. Congratulations.
Best,
Ron
I think you have one of the most professionally run event by far...
Ricardo
I think the arrangement of three rings is very good, and the whole tournament
flows thru quite smoothly. I especially like the timing when you call all the
Sifu together at 10.00, then a little briefing and the whole tournament
started SHARP at 10.30. The only suggestion I have is that the program
should be made known in advance so if I like to see only a certain few
types of competition, I do not have to be there starting at 10.30.
You do not have to give exact time when the certain type starts, but just say
tai chi 24 style starts between 1.00 to 2.30 with a gap of 1 to 2 hours,
as you won't know the no. of competitors taking part. Use dotted line across
you program sheet for hours of the day and big notes saying all that is approximate.
Jack
Wong Sifu,
With all the positive feedback and the job well done, I'm afraid you have no
excuse not to do it next year!
Sylvia
I went to two tourneys this year, and there were LESS people in the
traditional divisions. I didn't even see Bung Bo! My school won't be returning
to those tournaments, but we will come back to yours.
Your tournament was actually fun - I'll do what I can next year to
promote it to my contacts up and down the coast.
Tor
Sifu Wong,
I felt all the events ran in an orderly and timely fashion.
Very professional and organized. Of all the tournaments
I observed I think yours is probably one of the most enjoyable.
In terms of improvement I might suggest that to prevent any
perception of bias it might be a good idea to not have more than
one judge from the same school to judge one event.
This would be especially helpful in case of when one of the
competitors are from the very same school as the two judges.
I am not saying a respected judge would deliberately judge unfairly
but that bias could unconsiously play out, and this rule may put the
other competitors at ease of mind (and less reason to complain should the occasion arise).
I understand that is the reason why the highest and the lowest mark are taken away,
but that would only help in a case of one same-school judge, and not two.
All in all I had a great time. Thank you for the opportunity to participate,
and I look forward to next year!
Actually I would like to take this opportunity to ask you whether
there will be any changes to the traditional weapons' catagories for
next year's tournament or will it most likely stay the same
(just want to get an early start training for next year)?
Thank you so much again for your time and I appreciate your interest in my humble opinions.
Ricardo
Other comments I collected on the floor:
Competitor should wear proper uniforms to compete
Most audience left at the end of the tourney.
Hook up a speaker to the other Gym room. Some competitors didn't hear the announcement.
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