The Traditional Kung Fu Invitational
南 北 國 術 邀 請 賽
2009

  • Date
    		•  :  Nov 07  2009  Saturday
  • Place
     
    		• :  MacNeil School Gym. 6611 #4 Rd. (Granville Ave),
       Richmond, BC, Canada (click here to get map)
  • Time
    		•  :  8:30 AM


       1st Place winners will receive a well balanced, custom made, Lungchuan Swords

      第一名 獎 品 :  龍 泉 寶 劍 (手 打)

    Sifu's and Judges



    Grand Champion 2008
    Rebecca Leung
    from Tradtitiona Kung Fu Training Centre




    >>>>>>>>>>>> TOURNAMENT HIGHLIGHTS <<<<<<<<<<<<

                 Women and Men Divisions, 男, 女 子 組
                  60 and over Open, 60 歲 以 上 自 選
                  Stationary Push Hands, 定 步 推 手

    Jing Mo   - Kung Lik Kuen
      - Jeet Kuen
    Tai Chi   - Yang's 24
      - Chen's
    Praying Mantis   - Bun Bo
    Hung Gar
         		   - Fu Hok Seung Ying
        (Tiger and Crane)
    Choi Lee Fut   - Little Plum Blossom Flower Fist
    Wing Chun   - Siu Lim Tau
    Northern Shaolin   - 6th Routine Short Strike
    Wushu   - International Taolu
    Push Hands   - Men & Women
    精武會   - 功力拳
      - 截拳
    太極   - 楊式太極二十四式
      - 陳式太極
    螳螂派   - 崩步拳
    洪家
         		   - 虎鶴雙形拳
     
    蔡李佛   - 小梅花
    詠春   - 小念頭
    北少林   - 六路短打
    武術   - 國際套路
    定步推手   - 男女子

    Competitors: $45.00 for first division, $15 for each additional division.
    Admission: $7.00, Under 6 and over 65 free

    Early registrstion (before Oct.26th) will receive 3 admission passes
    Registration starts at 8:30 AM at the door
    Competition starts at 10:00 AM sharp!

    Q & A :


    Q: Have you decided a date yet?
    A: Yes, Nov 07th, Saturday 2009.

    Q: How much for each event?
    A: 1st event is $45.00, each additional event is $15.00

    Q: I was wondering about your upcoming tournament in November. Its called an
        "Invitational" so I am wondering how I may procure such an iniviatation.
    A: Just leave me your email, address or phone # I'll send you an official invitation.
        In that way at least I get to know you first. I always feel bad that I did not have a chance
        to greet everyone coming to my tournament.

    Q: Will you be adding more styles and forms in the category?
    A: Upon request we can add any style or form in the category
    provided we have at least 4 competitors in that category.

    Q: How do you interpret Novice, Advance?
    A: Novice = A participant who has less than two years of total accumulative Martial Arts training
          including Internal and External of any style.
         Advanced = A participant with over two years of Martial Arts training
        In other words one cannot enter Advanced division in External category and enter Novice
        Category in the Internal division or vice versa.

    Q: If less than 4 people in one category the competitors will get combined with others.
          How do you combine them?
    A: 1st, younger age group will be combined with older age group of the same level.
          2nd, form a new category for Northern styles or Southern styles.
          3rd, combine to just Hand Form or just Weapons catagories.

    Q: Should parents who are driving their kids to the tournament get free passes?
    A: Sorry, no, 3 free passes are being given to Competitors who pre-register before Oct 26. 2009.
         Why not register early this year.

    Q: Since I am competing do I need to have a pass?
    or is the 3 free passes for other people?
    A: As a competitor, you don't need a pass to get in.
    You can invite 3 of your friends to cheer you up while you're competiting.

    Q: Is it possible to post the time for each event?
    A: It can only happen if every competitor pre-register. It's impossible to figure out
         how long does each event takes when we don't even know how many
          competitors will be competing in each category.
         But we will have the estimated (to our best guess) event schedule posted on our web site
          before the tournament and we'll try to keep the order as close as possible.

    Q: Since registration starts at 8:30am and the competition formally start at 10am
    then when should I arrive since I've pre-registered?
    A: No later than 10:00 am.

    Q: Are there parking?
    A: Lots of free parkings.

    Q: I am interested to attend as a spectator, is this tournament open to the public?
    A: Yes, this tournament is open to the public.

    Q: Any dress code for competitors?
    A: Yes:
         1.Traditional Jing Wu uniform.
         2. Wushu competition uniform.
         3. Logo or club's name must be visible if wearing T-shirts.
          4. Shoes with non-marking sole.

    Q: How come there's only one washroom?
    A: There are more washroom facilities in the school, just ask. We'll also post more signs.

    Q: What are the prizes for this year's winners?
    A: All 1st place winners will be awarded a well balanced, custom made, Lungchuan Swords.
        2nd and 3rd place winners will be awarded Kung Fu Folding Fan
        Grand champ will be awarded a 9' X 7' flag.
         See pictures above.

    Q: How do you ensure judging is fair?
    A: Our system is to have at least 5 judges for each event.
          To avoid bias judging we will take away the highest and the lowest scores.
          Final score is by summing up the middle 3.

    Q: Can you mix up the order of the events, in terms of age and level categories,
        so that for those who desire to compete in multiple categories,
        might have 2 or 3 events back to back, would be able to catch a breathe .
    A: We've been doing it for several years and it was quite successful. We will keep doing it.

    Q: In Wushu divisions, are the competitors doing the "degree of difficulties/Nan Do"
        competing with the International Taolo?
    A: Yes, It happened in previous years. Judging is based on the overall performance and we
        haven't had any complain for being unfair. As long as the time
        is being limited to 1 min. 20 sec.

    Q: I am interested in coming but was also a little confused about the
        competiton divisions. I pracice northern Shaolin and CLF, so in the
        CLF division I can only compete with Little Plum Flower? and is it the same as
        Siu Lum #6 division?
    A: I'd love to have an event for every competitor but is not possible.
        If you can not find your style's special event then try the open events like
        8 and under, 12 and under, 13 - 16, Handforms novice/advanced, weapons...etc.
        Or if you can gather at least 4 competitors I can open up an event just for you.

    Q: On the event list there are "H", "W", "I", and "IW" in front of the event names,
    what does that mean?
    A:     "H" means Hand Forms, "W" means Weapons Forms,
        "I" means Internal Hand Forms and "IW" means Internal Weapons Forms.
        The scores of theses forms will be calculated into the Grand Champion scoring.

    Q:
    Any other comments and questions please send to :
    sifu@traditionalkungfu.com

    Tournament Divisions 比 賽 分 組

    Novice = A participant has less than two years of total acculmulative Martial Arts training
           including Internal and External of any style.
    Advanced = A participant with more than two years of Martial Arts training                         


    Traditional
    傳 統 國 術
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    H
    W
     
    H
    H
    H
    H
    H
    H
    W
    W
    W
    W     		 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
          		8 & under hand form 
    9 to 12 hand form
    12 & under weapons 
    13 to 16 hand form novice 
    13 to 16 hand form advanced 
    13 to 16 weapons 
    17 & up hand form novice 
    Hand form advanced  
    Weapons  
    Jing Mo - Kung Lik Kuen
    Praying Mantis - Bun Bo
    Jing Mo - Jeet Kuen
    Hung Gar - Tiger and Crane 
    Choi Lee Fat - Little Plum Blossom Flower 
    Wing Chun - Siu Lim Tau
    Northern Shao Lin - 6th Routine Short Strike
    Sabre
    Staff
    Three-sectional Staff
    Straight Aword     		八 歲 以 下 套 拳
    九 至 十 二 歲 套 拳
    十 二 歲 以 下 兵 器
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 初 級 套 拳
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 初 高 級 套 拳
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 兵 器
    十 七 歲 以 上 初 級 套 拳
    高 級 套 拳
    兵 器
    精 武 會 - 功 力 拳
    螳 螂 - 崩 步 拳
    精 武 會 - 截 拳
    洪 家 - 虎 鶴 雙 形 拳
    蔡 李 佛 - 小 梅 花
    詠 春 - 小 念 頭
    北 少 林 - 六 路 短 打
    刀 術
    棍 術
    三 節 棍
    劍 術
     
    Wushu
    武 術

     
     
     
     
     

    H
    W
    H
    W
    W
    W

    		 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
          		8 & under hand form 
    9 to 12 hand form
    12 & under weapons 
    13 to 16 hand form novice 
    13 to 16 hand form advanced 
    13 to 16 weapons 
    17 & up hand form novice 
    Hand form advanced 
    Weapons
    Chang Quan (Long Fist)
    Nan Quan (Southern Fist)
    Daoshu (Broadsword)
    Gunshu (Cudgel)
    Jianshu (Straight Sword)     		八 歲 以 下 套 路
    九 至 十 二 歲 套 路
    十 二 歲 以 下 器 械
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 初 級 套 路
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 高 級 套 路
    十 三 至 十 六 歲 器 械
    十 七 歲 以 上 初 級 套 路
    高 級 套 路
    器 械
    長 拳
    南 拳
    刀 術
    棍 術
    劍 術
     
    Internal
    內 家 拳
     
     
    I
    IW
    I
     
    I     		 
     
     
     
          		16 & Under Internal
    17 & Up Internal Novice
    17 & Up Internal Advanced
    17 & Up Internal Weapons
    Yang's 24 Advanced
    Chen's Novice
    Chen's Advanced
    Push Hands - Women
    Push Hands - Men 145 lbs & Under
    Push Hands - Men 146 lbs & Over     		十 六 歲 以 下 內 家 拳
    十 七 歲 以 上 內 家 拳 初 級
    十 七 歲 以 上 內 家 拳 高 級
    十 七 歲 以 上 內 家 兵 器
    楊 式 太 極 二 十 四 式 高 級
    陳 式 太 極 初 級
    陳 式 太 極 高 級
    定 步 推 手 - 女 子
    定 步 推 手 - 男 子，145 磅 以 下
    定 步 推 手 - 男 子，146 磅 以 上
     
    Open
    自 選
        Choreographed Fighting / Synchronized
    45 & Over Hand Form
    45 & Over Weapons
    60 & Over Open    		 對 拆 / 集 體
    45歲 以 上 套 路
    45歲 以 上 兵 器
    60歲 以 上 自 選
     
    Uniform
    Proper Kung Fu attire must be worn at all times by competitors during competition:
              1. Traditional Kung Fu uniform
              2. Wushu competition uniform.
              3. Logo or club's name must be visible if wearing T-shirts.
              4. Shoes with non-marking sole.


    Please click here for EVENT ORDER and approximate time.


    Some comments received from passed years:


    > > Sifu Jack Wong,
    > > The tournament went great. My students had a lot of fun and it was a
    great experience for them.
    > > Comments? The only thing I can think about is the 2nd and 3rd place
    awards being the same. When the competitors get home they may forget if they
    won 2nd or 3rd. hahaha...Near the end we only had one ring going for the
    > > traditional events, yet we had 5 judges ready on the other side to judge
    > > traditional. there was about 3 divisions left which we probably could
    have finished faster with 2 rings. Other than that it was an excellent tournament
    > > > > and all of us are looking forward to this competition again next year.
    > > Thanks. > > > Candice


    > Welllllllllllllll. The tournament was run very smooth again. If I had
    > to complain it would be to say that sweet and sour boneless pork
    > should have been on the menu after the tournament.
    > > Really: Two of my student had to compete against one another when
    > there were still student from other schools that were in the push
    > hands division. Suggest, Judges try to insure that all students from
    > same school be paired up with another opponent before the medal round.
    > > Try to get some more "old timmers" to compete in the over 45 division.
    > There must be a lot out there. Ha-Ha. Your tournament was fine. Thanks
    > for the invite and say again congads to Si-Fu Andrew for me. Thanks
    > Edward Laramie


    Nice to have met you. I think the tournament was essentially a very positive
    event and I am hoping to bring other students next year.
    I do have a few comments to make but am going to take my time in submitting
    them as I want to be sure my wording conveys that although there are one or
    two things that it would be nice to change, on the whole I think it was
    pretty satisfactory.
    I am organizing a 4 day camp this weekend so probably won't get back to you
    until early next week.
    Cheers,
    Gord


    Wong Sifu,
    I just wanted to let you know I had a great time! I couldn't believe the number of changes
    you were able to implement in such a short tie. I always enjoy making friends
    with kung fu practicioners of different styles and schools.
    Thank you once again for another wonderful tournament experience.
    Ricardo



    My commetnts:
    1. Generally ran smoother than previous years. Any feedback from participants ?
    2. Still not enough taichi judges.
    3. Definition of "Novice" could be clarified, by adding another sentence or two, such as :
    " A participant with two or more years of total acculmulative martial arts training
    cannot enter as a novice in an event even if the participant has less than two years
    of training in that particiular event."
    4. In the definition of the "Advanced" category, could add " A participant who enters an
    advanced categroy cannot enter any other events in the novice category." There will be
    no room for confusion by the addition of clarifications in 3 & 4.
    5. Clarify rules among outself on "tripping" for push hand.
    [After the push hand event, I went over to the participants and ask for their feedback
    on what they think about our pushhand rules. They all liked it because it avoided
    wrestling and said we were quick to stop things from deteriorating and kept the event
    very clean. I asked whether "tripping" should be allowed, they say they prefer no tripping.
    We disallowed tripping in this year's event, and turned out to be a good thing
    because someone could get hurt falling back on wooden floor.
    I found that in some pairs, it was quite difficult for them to score because they were
    trying to literally push each other and did not try enough to shed the opponent's
    force to upset their balance. The pushing was made more so because no tripping was
    allowed, giving them less tools to move the opponent. Hence, we should clarify
    tripping rules among ourselves, considering safety vs more flexibility.]
    6. In your contract with the school, should stipulate that more than one washroom
    (toilet stalls) should be available for male and female participants, and with adequate
    supply of toilet paper and paper towels (toilet paper and paper towels were not issues
    this year but previous years were when the school janitor did not show up,
    so might as well put it into your contract as contractual requirements.) One toilet stall
    in men's side this year is not satisfactory when they closed off access to the other
    bigger men's washroom. Don't know about situations for the females.
    7. Should have designated videographers and video camera(s) for each ring.
    Having Mike as the designated photograher and asking winners to turn around were improvements.
    However, it wasn't worked out who should be handing out the non-winner certificates and
    whether they should be in the photo line up. The non-winners ended up walking away before

    receiving their certificates. I suggest that after the winners were
    standing at the podium, the judges hands out the non-winner certificates first and ask them
    to stay for photos, then hand out the winner's prizes and certificates before turning
    around for the group photos. This gives some idea how many people they have to out-perform
    to win the event.
    That's all for now.
    CK


    Hi Jack,
    .....Hope things are going well for you.
    Here are my little suggestions.... 1. Propaganda
    - make this event more visible by the public
    - It will attract more groups and individuals to the competition
    2. Brief introduction for the competitors
    - It is done by the competitors or the committee desk; it will make it more
    interesting for the audiences if they can hear it.
    3. Group championship
    - Something similar to NHL cups. The winning group can keep the trophy
    for one year. However, it is meaningless if only a few groups participate.
    - Only the open forms competition should be counted. The particular form
    competitions should be excluded i.e. Bun Bo, Sup Ji Kau Dah are specific
    for a style and should not be counted.
    4. Family Pass
    - Most of the competitors are kids. We should encourage their family
    members to come and show their support.
    - i.e. $13 for a family pass
    It is only my 2 cents. May not work in the reality.
    .........
    Take care!
    Regards
    PC


    Dear Master Wong,
    Sorry for the late reply!
    Some of my kung fu classmates were wondering if there was any chance that this year
    you could mix up the order of the events, in terms of age and level categories for traditional,
    so that if someone is enrolled in multiple events would be able to catch a breathe.
    I understand that as a practicioner we should always be ready to go on and on
    but it would be much appreciated if we could give each competition their best.

    This would allow each competitor a genuine chance for those who desire to compete
    in multiple categories compared to those competing in one
    (i.e. competitor with energy spent compared to a group of rested and fresh -
    if he had an event one after the other). Another benefit would be less people
    waiting around all day for their events. For example if children category were
    intermixed with adults then neither group of practitioners would be waiting around for their
    event since if an adult event was currently up then a children event would be for sure next.

    Also if the event order was posted at the tournament then the order should be
    kept as close as possible since there would be a certain expectation for the
    practicioners to prepare mentally for single or pair choreography events.
    These are my humble suggestions to an already excellent tournament.
    Thank you so much for all your efforts to listen to everyone's input and in
    putting out one of the best tournament.
    Yours sincerely.
    Jane

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