| WORKING AIREDALE TERRIER ASSOCIATION | |
| Clint Stubbe PO Box 106 Winlaw, British Columbia Canada V0G 2J0 |
Kevin G. Kelly PO Box 228 Boulder Creek, California 95006 |
Full Cry Column
December 2001
Kevin Kelly Southern Working Airedale Terrier Association Correspondent
I liked the
thorough discussion, in Clints column, last month about the
Redline and Third Quadrant definitions. The terms are very good
for clarity in descriptions of different characteristics.
For the most part I believe, as I think most working dogmen and
women do, that temperament, intelligence and the working
instincts for which your using the dog, are the essential
criteria in a breeding program. The physical conformation
contributes to the dogs ability to do the job. His
locomotion, agility comes from his conformation. His coat
contributes to his purpose. All of these things are a matter of
personal choice. The Airedale Terrier is just that; a Terrier.
The Redline Dale, I believe is a throw back to the original
crosses made in the breed. The Original Stew. I was reading last
night in " The New Airedale Terrier " by Dutcher and
Framke, a discussion of the early days and breeding; " The
problem of evolving a smart, though large, Terrier from the
amalgamated tribes of sporting dogdom was no easy one... The
descriptions of parents of the best early winners indicated that,
the sires were often the large somewhat houndy dogs, but the dams
were neat, rather small, very rough coated and sometimes even
smooth bitches, fiery and Terrier-like through and through."
This description refers to the years after the first crosses were
made in Northern England, to the early nineteen hundreds when the
Airedale was established but not producing a consistent type.
I'm not after the
slick coated Redline like some of the guys but I sure like their
hunting energy, temperament and intelligence and am striving to
put it in a hard self keeping coat. The show world has tried to
lock him into one particular type based on the fad of the day,
which is far from the original, utility Airedale Terrier. If
thats what they want, thats OK with me. But always we
have gotten litters with mixed types, we can all relax now
because thats OK too. Hunt and work the dog you choose!
The following was
an e-mail I received recently from Henry Johnson, another good
perspective of the big picture; For what it is worth, I am
fooling around with a lot of terriers these days. There are
smooth, broken, and rough coated variations of almost all the
terriers, often in the same litter. And they all have their uses
and all are considered terriers. And of course there are smooth
and rough coated Collies and both types, though shown separately,
are recognized as Collies. The variation in Airedale coats is
perfectly natural and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
There is room for all types and they are all Airedales. If
somebody likes one type over another that is fine. Everybody
should be free to do what they want. I like them all but do
prefer the third quadrant type and would be breeding for that if
I were still breeding Airedales. HSJ
Personally Im
taking the Redline into the Third Quadrant.
Steve Brown up in
Oregon has a litter thats about ten weeks old, if your
reading this in the first week of December. The sire is Dusty and
is a pretty good example of what I consider a Third
Quadrant/Redline dog. The Dam is Shonie, an extreme fourth
quadrant, redline. Dustys outward appearance is Third
Quadrant all the way but his father Cajun is almost completely
Slick and his mother Maggie is Redline on her fathers side. From
what Steve tells me he is a very good Airedale and loves to hunt.
Dusty is a nice looking 65 to 70 lb., rough coated
Airedale, with facial beard and has intelligent looks and
personality.
He was the
only survivor of his litter, as a cold spell unexpectedly blew in
and killed all of his littermates, one night. I have never had to
shear him since his coat is a low profile curly low maintenance
type. It only grows to about 1and1/2 inches in length. He took
after his Momma (Maggie ) in looks. His hunt drive is quite good
as he will check out everything and is quite game minded, with an
extra dose of cat aggression, which I appreciate. He has some
retrieving instincts, though I have not worked with him much in
that area, but plan to eventually. His temperament is wonderful.
.He is just a big kid with a good sense of humor, and is pleasant
to have around, and is a good watch dog too. I hunt him on
raccoon in this area and he caught on fast. With no fear of
taking hold and receiving a bite now and then to go with what he
dishes out. I plan to get him started on coyote decoy training
soon, as it is now that time of year and we have plenty of
coyotes to play with. His Momma, (Maggie) was a decoy dog and was
quite good at it according to John Houben.
Dusty, fathered
another litter, earlier this year with my female hound. The pups
turned out awesome. 10 were born with 1 getting laid on at birth
so 9 survived. 7 males and 3 females total. All looked Airedale
except 2, a male and a female looked like black n tan hounds. Two
males most recently went to a cougar hunting guide, in
Winnemucca, Nevada. I'm looking forward to reports on those two
in the future. Two females went to coon hunters locally, and the
other female went to a coon and cat hunter in Washington State.
And two went as pets. I still have 2 males left. The hound
looking one Slick, and a large boned, mostly black with beautiful
dark reddish tan trim that will go 80 lbs., at full growth, I
think. I call him Brewzer, as in big Brewzer. All of them showed
a lot of hunt drive at 6 months on. So I expect them to do
well with game. We'll see. I'll look up some pictures to send to
you. Bye for now, Steve
Thanks for
the report Steve. Let me know how those Airedale pups, from the
newest litter, are doing and if you have any left, people might
be asking.
I had " the
girls" out in the woods a couple of days ago, ( Brisk 3yrs.,
Brigid 20 months and Alberta Trickum 11 months). They picked up a
scent trail and took off, after it. I wasn't sure what they were
following. We went quite a little ways and found a cougar kill.
Most of the deer carcass was gone, but what was left was buried
in a mound of leaves. I don't know if the cougar scent attracted
them or the deer remains, but it is good to watch them use their
noses and instincts for such a distance and find the thing they
were tracking.
One of the things
I'm impressed with is the way Brisk will hunt one way on one type
of game and another for something else. When we bird hunt she
will cast back and forth not getting to far out in the field.
When we're in the woods she will go out of sight for two, three,
or five minutes at a time before she check's back in. ( I need to
find a tracking collar for when we are after boar) I haven't
worked at training her, to teach her the difference, she just
knows. The terrain is different and with birds we both know what
works.
Speaking of what works, that would be Buster and Banjo, owned by
Sandy and Scott Seaton Sallee up in Montana. Sandy wrote recently
saying; Howdy! I just wrote Henry a quick note - our
guide was in camp with Buster and Banjo when they started barking
furiously in the night - he ignored them, and Buster ran into the
tent, and as the guide puts it, "Buster made me get up and
go outside" - Buster ran ahead of him where Banjo was
barking at the bear outside the cook tent, a big skinny grizzly.
Buster hit the bear and the bear swiped Buster in his rear end,
whereupon Garrett shot in the air and the bear took off with
Airedales pushing...Buster is very sore and cranky but I rode in
with praise and aspirin the next day and he cheered up! He hardly
sleeps at night anyway doing camp patrol - he's even more
nocturnal now, leaving Banjo to day duty! Love those Airedales!
Sandy Seaton Sallee
Ill bet Garrett pays more attention when Buster and Banjo
are calling.
Back in July on one of the message boards, there was talk about
Airedales and barking and apparently some of the folks had
barking Airedales. Henry posted the following; I
dont know where you guys get the idea that Airedales are
noisy. In my experience they are a quiet breed and only bark when
there is reason and a need to. Like when, "There's a
deer!"; There's a cat!"; "Somebody is coming,
probably a burglar!", or "Why don't you get off that
computer and come out here and feed us, you're late
already!" /HSJ, Fults Cove.
It made me laugh because it is so true. I would be with the dogs
right now if I wasnt on the computer, writing this column.
Back in July I got a letter from Charles Raymond from
Natchitoches, Louisiana. Charles I was writing a response to you
back in August for the October Full Cry when I was distracted by
a family situation and unable to get that month in. So here you
go. Charles wrote; Dear Sir: I am interested in the
Airedale for coon and squirrel hunting. Do they make good
coondogs? Do you know anyone in Louisiana who has Airedales? I
read Mr. Johnsons columns in Full Cry. Where is Mr.
Johnson. I want to get an Airedale or two. Thanks for your
consideration of my request in your next column or by mail.
Sincerely yours, Charles Raymond
Thank-you, Charles, for writing the letter. Airedales are very
often used for coon and squirrel. They do not generally open up
on trail the way a hound will but they will let you know when
they have one located, once they get the hang of what you want.
Jim Price up in Michigan uses Belle, his Airedale, to help
eliminate coons on his farm. A whole lot of my time in the woods,
with the dogs, is just taking a look around. They have taken to
squirrel hunting pretty much on their own. Its great
entertainment and the squirrels are plentiful. They dont
bark on the tree but I feel that it would be a small step to
encourage and train them to do so.
I ask some of the fellows around the country
that hunt Airedales and here are some of the responses I got;
Richard Dwyer from Illinois said; I have hunted Airedale on
coon but in a more non-conventional way than most people would. I
have had mixed results. I have had dogs that were excellent and
some that were not so good. As a whole they do quite well.
Are you asking if
we free cast our dogs like the boys with the hounds? I work my
dogs with more of a search and destroy type of method of barns,
woodpiles, heavy cover, and so on. The only treeing that I get is
if the coon is lucky enough to be able to make it to a tree or
rafter in the barn.
Billy Harkins, in Georgia, had this to say; As for hunting coon and squirrels with the Airedales. I have had Steel on a few coon, that he treed with my old black and tan coon dog and he was getting the hang of it, but when I got him into the big game (Bear and Boar) he kind of lost interest. I tried to get Lucy on a squirrel the other day when I had her at work with me and she ran it up the tree but soon lost interest when it got out of site. She is an old dog but I could get her into the squirrels if I would just spend some time with her. In fact I may since I most likely wont do much hunting in N.C. this year.
I will keep you up dated.
Ive gone back
into the Full Cry Archives, to the December 1991 issue and found
this from Al Kranbul who was training his pup Airedale, Charlie
Girl ( Kabar/Sheena ) ; I have been working Charlie Girl
almost everyday with Buck and Bone ( 6 month old coonhounds) and
so far she has shown much progress even though she is just a baby
(5 Months ). The pups are being worked on scented drags, old
skins and a live lead coon. A little progress is shown every time
out, and I have been pleased. Hopefully good progress will
continue and Charlie, Buck and Bone will make us both proud.
Well I know Al
still has Charlie Girl, and it is not likely for him to keep a
dog that doesnt work out. Al, let us know what the
past ten years have been like with Charlie Girl.
My suspicion is
that in the United States, Airedales are used to hunt coon and
squirrel as much as anything else. Once again it is the
versatility of the breed that, to my mind, makes it an excellent
hunting dog and partner.
As for Airedales in
Louisiana, at this time I do not know of any. Billy Harkins is in
Georgia, (706-745-9405) Eddie Boatwright is in Tennessee
(931-722-6326) and Lawrence Alexander is in Alabama
(256-766-0193).
To answer your
inquiries of Henry Johnson, he is doing fine in Fults Cove,
Tennessee. These days he is working and breeding mostly smaller
Terriers. Border Terriers seem to be a favorite but he has a
blend of Border/Patterdale and a Lakeland from Irish parents,
thats a beauty. Henry is mostly interested in good working
dogs. And I believe his love for Airedales will never die,
whether he is breeding them directly or acting as a mentor and
advisor for folks like me around the country who are carrying on
his line of good working Airedales.
Charles, I hope
that answers your questions and please do stay in touch. If there
is anything else I can do for you please let me know.
Theresa Baker, called herself a Newbie, and had some questions
about the Airedale; I live in Mn. where
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some harsh winters; some call us MinneSNOWta! I have
indoor housedogs ONLY, and consider myself a terrier
person; I raise American Pit Bull Terriers and Rat
Terriers at present. However, I do not do very many
breedings (too many idiots want my pitbulls and I
dont sell them to just anybody). I dont
anticipate keeping anymore APBT; when my housedogs pass
over the rainbow bridge I want another large terrier, one
not necessarily to breed, but one that wont attract
the lowlifes and thugs like my bulldawgs do. I have
admired the Airedale for years and think that a
dale will do! However, I am concerned about the
coat and temperament. Granted, I have seen few examples
of the larger dogs, but all the pix I see of show dogs
show them in coats that look like a hassle to groom. Can
the coat be left alone -as is with out it
growing long like a poodles? Will it grow into the
dogs eyes? What happens if you dont pluck it
out? As for temperament, what word characterizes this
breed in a nutshell? And what - if any -drawbacks would
you associate with this breed and/or the larger
dale? Thanks... Theresa. Dog
Trainer, John Quy of North Carolina, did an excellent job
answering Theresas questions. Theresa, Great
Questions! Where are you in Mn.? I used to live in the
Ely area. I also used to have pit's but burned out on the
lowlife's that became enamored with the breed and I also
like keeping a pack and that's tough with pit's. Having
gone through numerous breeds trying to replace my pit
bulls I have settled on dale's. Author and pit bull lover
Vicky Hearne considers dale's curly pits. I don't
completely agree but they do have similarities. Perhaps
the description in a nutshell is that a good Airedale has
"character". You seem to assume that all the
hunting/working dales are the large type which is not the
case. My Henry Johnson bloodline dog, Queequag, is 50#'s
at 15 months and has a 2 inch relatively wash and wear
coat. He could handle your winters I guaranty it and the
mosquitoes can't bite through the coat in summer. I brush
him out for about a minute daily and get no shedding in
the house at all. On the size issue, if you want 80#'s or
so you can get it but if you want 45#'s that's out there
too. I like to
think that this column is read by dogpeople, who
dont presently own an Airedale but would make very
good Airedale owners and would appreciate the breed if
they came to know it. Thanks for the good
description John. And stay in touch with stories
and field reports on Queeqag. Well it
looks like Dennis Hescock is going to breed his Georgia (
Hammer/Lucy ) to Ben Timmes Rhino
(Slim/Brisk), probably in November. Dennis and Shelley
live in Vermont And Ben, Donna, young Ben and
Charlie live in Connecticut. Anyone in the Northeast
looking for good dogs ought to check these out, they will
be good ones. Jeff Rowe
of Lindruff Kennels just picked up his first Airedale
puppy to raise for a Terrier Task Force with his Jack
Russells and Patterdales. Jeff also has Labs and Setters,
and Im hoping he works his new pup, Reba with them.
I think he will be surprised at what good Upland and
Waterfowl hunters these Airedales make. Jeff, stay in
touch and please let us know how things are working out. I hope
everyone knows that Clint and I welcome and invite field
reports and stories from everyone with Airedales. We
write about the ones we hear about. If we
dont hear from you we cant tell your stories. Two
quotes this month; "Can our form of government, our
system of justice, survive if one can be denied a freedom
because he might abuse it?" HSJ Fults Cove Tennessee And;
Where morality is present, laws are unnecessary. Without
morality, laws are unenforceable." /Anon. And a
thought for our present time in history; The
world churned up in Turmoil, Rights
go out the door.
No one needs protect me,
Ill guard my home and shore.
Dont call upon the government,
Dont scream for Mom and Dad.
Stand your ground, protect yourself,
Dont get scared, get mad. As Henry
S. Johnson Jr. always said: Until next month, let
me hear from you Airedale people and dont forget to
put your arms around those black and tan dogs with the
beards and moustaches and talk to them. They are people
dogs and family members. I would
like to wish everyone a very warm and loving Christmas.
Share your love with your family, rekindle an old
friendship, make amends anywhere your still carrying a
grudge, whether its with somebody else or even
yourself. Throw regrets away and take your dreams to
heart. Merry Christmas and the Best to You in the New
Year. Respectfully
submitted, Kevin G. Kelly, RDR Ranch Corresponding
Secretary for the Working Airedale Terrier Association.
No rules, regulations, officers, dues or formal
affiliations. Its more a state of mind.
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