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| Clint Stubbe PO Box 106 Winlaw, British Columbia Canada V0G 2J0 |
Kevin G. Kelly PO Box 228 Boulder Creek, California 95006 |
Full Cry Column
March 2001
Clint Stubbe (Northern Working Airedale Terrier Association correspondent)
Well this winter has sure been a nice one so far. Mild temperatures right up
to the early part of January have kept the snow in the valley bottoms from building
up too much and after a week or two of cold it is raining again here now at
the end of January. I went out twice this week looking for cat tracks. The first
day I got scooped as I saw where someone had killed a cat the day before then
I found another set of tracks but someone had his dogs on them. This was exactly
where I had treed a female last year and a couple years before and was probably
the same girl. Hope he left her up a tree as she was pretty dependable. By the
time I found a third set of tracks it was too late to do anything with them.
They were the smallest tracks I have ever seen separate from a mother. The second
day out I saw nothing but there will be other days.
Got another nice letter from Glenn Overstreet in which he enclosed a photo of
his Lil Girl a slick coated Airedale of his breeding. He says
Lil Girl is out of Cajun and his niece Boss Laydee. I got Boss Laydee
from Barbara Burns of Tennessee who owned Cajuns sister. They had three
litters but only one slick in each litter. The first one I kept back but let
Ron Stout have her at 15 months or so. She was everything he wanted to breed
with. Sometimes opened on track and a real tree dog and hunter. She was bear
killed along with the rest of his pack.
The second went to Tom Everman, a Veterinarian in S. Oregon, a male to replace
another male from the first litter that got run over. Tom was real high on the
first dog but said this slick was three times the dog in every way. He is available
for stud.
The third is Lil girl. She like all the rest of this cross that I have heard
from is a real tree dog. She hunts with the hounds and Curs and stays on a mean
bear. I believe these redline Airedales are superior and go back closer to the
original

Thanks for the letter Glenn and I will enclose the picture of Lil Girl. The
captions on the photos I submitted for the January column got all screwed up
in printing so I apologize if anyone was wondering what the heck the captions
were supposed to mean.
I got this update via email from Wayne Waggoner
Enclosed is a picture of a day pheasant hunting ( in the wild, not a shooting
preserve) with Sandhill Cove's McCain (Big Mac) and a buddy of mine, Sammy.
We got these two roosters and missed two. It was pretty rough hunting in the
multiflora rose, but Big Mac, made life a lot easier by diving into the multiflora
rose and flushing. I really think that he thought they were ground varmints.
I've always hunted with German Shorthaired Pointers or English Pointers or Setters.
Big Mac did quite a remarkable job compared to the bird hunting standards I
grew up under.(wing & shot rules). I really don't think that the bird dogs
could do as well of an all round job as he does with what we exposed this dog
too!
Henry Johnson, Keith Waggoner (my nephew) and myself have taken on bringing
back the Irish Terrier breed, just like Henry Johnson has helped do with the
Airedales. What a chore trying to get those Irish owner's to sell us a puppy
when they knew we were going to hunt them like they were originally bred to
do. We finally have our first litter on the ground. Amber gave us a fine litter
of seven puppies, four of which have already been placed with hunting people.
One with our buddy Mike Fordyce in Wyoming, one with Gary Strader in Montana,
he thinks it will be the perfect size to hunt coyotes, as a decoy dog. He thinks
the some of the western coyotes were a little intimidated with size of the Airedale,
Henryetta. We will try to keep you informed as to the difference of the two
breeds, the Irish Terrier and the Airedale. So far the Irish are a little quicker
on the game at the kill and a little faster on speed , but the size comes into
play on the larger quarry as to bully strength the Airedale has it over on them.
The Irish can get into smaller holes and tighter areas to keep the quarry at
bay or extract it . We really want to get these puppies placed with hunting
persons all over the Continent and all kinds of farm and hunting challenges.
Just talked to Mike Fordyce out in Wyoming, we told you about last year. After
a bobcat hunt his Airedale, Clown (Fergie / McCain) bred his hound female (Pearl)
and the one male that survived was given to a lion hunting home. At thirteen
months old the lion hunter says he is the smartest lion dog that he has had.
In fact he has just turned down $5,000 for him that another hunter offered him
for the dog. Mike says that he has gotten two or three other lion hunter calling
and wanting to breed their hound bitches to Clown! They feel he is one of the
most intelligent lion dog ever. The hound gave a good tracking nose and stamina,
and Clown input brains and lots of guts at the bay.
We have not gotten a chance to hunt Henrietta (Fergie / Grit) yet. We have not
had too much snow yet although last weekend when it had snowed, Keith and I
got to go out and we found tracks to a pack of coyotes and at least two or three
pairs of coyotes. It seems that they have started to pair up already. Now we
will start on coyotes.

Thanks for the update Wayne. I recently read A. F Hochwalts 1921 book
The Airedale for Work and Show. It was recommended to me by Richard
Dwyer who posted this excerpt on the Working Airedale Terrier Board which by
the way no longer exists.
There are some strains, unquestionably, that are better qualified to make
better working dogs than others, but it is surprising how many strains are in
existence today whose ancestors have had no work for generations, and yet puppies
from such strains, if started properly, will come to their own. As I stated
on various occasions, so many breeders prefer the honors of the bench show to
making working dogs out of their dogs, because of the very natural fear that
this rough-and tumble work of hunting may mar their chances for showing, and
particularly do they hesitate in placing their dogs in packs that are used on
big game as there is a likelihood that they may be killed or if not that at
least maimed to such extent that their usefulness as show specimens might be
forever ruined. One can not cavil at this, however, for if an owner obtains
more pleasure in showing than working his dogs, then by all means let him bring
up his terriers for the purpose he intends to use them, but it is because so
many families have not been worked for generations, that the distinction arose
between the working and the show Airedale.
Another contaminant feature is that many of the show strains have been bred
for show points to such extent, that while certain improvements in so called
quality have been made, these were secured through loss of stamina, size, bone,
substance, and above all, gameness, that has much to do with the bad name some
Airedales have received.
Not long ago a man told me with a party of friends, was going on a big game
hunt in the far Northwest and that he was taking with him 4 Airedales that he
had recently purchased." Fine specimens," he assured me, "all
of their ancestry were winners." " But have these dogs you are taking
with you had any experience?" I inquired. The man looked at me in blank
amazement. " I thought," he said, "That all Airedales would fight
and that they take to big game hunting as a natural thing." " I fear
that you will be disappointed in your dogs," I replied, "but perhaps
if you go slowly, they may learn through sheer necessity." Months afterward
this same man assured me that as a big game dog was a decided failure, that
he left his dogs in the Northwest as he did not think them worth the price of
carfare to bring home. Such experience are to be expected, but they ere frequently
encountered.
The Airedale has won a reputation for being an all around dog, game to death
and suitable to be used anywhere. Because of this impression, many sportsmen
are thus misleading by thinking that as long as wherever he is used, experience
or no experience. One would not expect the beagle to perform his natural mission
in life without training, nor would one expect a beagle or the foxhound to prove
satisfactory when being taken out of the kennel for the first time and put into
the field; never the less there are numerous people who imagine the Airedale
should do everything any other dog can do without a days experience or training.
While, as I have said, there are many dogs of the breed which will make good,
even if descended from stock which has had no practical work for generations,
I would advise the sportsman looking for a really useful dog to select one from
a family known to be practical dogs, which does not necessarily mean he must
be an ungainly brute. There are any number of Airedales with show points which
are also good working dogs, even though perhaps some of these strains lack the
"quality appearance" that is the shibboleth of present day bench show
breeders. Rather sacrifice some of this so -called quality substance, bone,
gameness, and above all intelligence.
For a working Airedale size should always be given consideration. I do not mean
that it is necessary to select great, massive animals weighing eighty pounds
or more, for such specimens are not only ungainly, but lack the shiftiness,
which bear or mountain lion fighting is sometimes as essential as extraordinary
size. Many of the Western Airedale breeders who use their dogs in the Rockies
have some large specimens, but they are gradually coming to the point where
they realize that a dog weighing between fifty and sixty pounds will answer
all purposes provided they have the heart, the courage, and the alertness that
are necessary. Personally for an all around dog I prefer the males to run from
45 to 50 pounds and females slightly less. One bitch I saw in one of the Southern
packs recently, weighed about 40 pounds, but she was the gamest of the game
and would attack so fearlessly that sometimes it was her undoing.
While on the question of gameness, it is not out of place to digress here for
a moment. gameness and courage are decidedly different qualities from reckless
impetuosity. Frequently one finds that when an Airedale is game, he is to a
fault, and when he is timid, he is so to exaggeration, and yet it is often noted
that many Airedales are very timid as puppies, but which with time and experience
become the best kind of dogs. They discover their own powers, and they lack
the ferocious, daredevil recklessness they will eventually make the best big
game fighters, for they are more cautious.
Thanks for taking the time to type that out Richard.
Both Richard and Bob McClellan remarked how the division between work and show
lines existed even back then when the breed was just in its youth.
I got a phone call from John Tessier of Rhode Island. We talked Airedales for
quite a bit and I was surprised at how familiar he was with my neck of the woods.
He had spent some time up here and his ex girlfriend was from this area. He
told me a couple of stories of his old Airedale Shamus Borden Mcduff who he
no longer has. John will probably be looking for an Airedale sometime in the
future and I gave him Al Kranbuhls name, as Al is pretty close to him.
I went out before Christmas to a place that isnt far from home and was
pleased to find that the road had been plowed. There is a little activity going
on up a side road and it was drivable so I headed up. This road goes up into
some beautiful country but it is more beautiful in the spring or summer then
in the winter when every kilometer takes you up into deeper snow. At the thirteen
kilometer mark I hit a pretty good lion track. He was working the road for a
bit then headed up into some steep rocky ground where I figured he would bed
down. I started out on the track and cursed myself for not bringing skis or
snowshoes. Down in the valley the snow was only about 1/2 meter deep but up
here it was over my waist with no base. The lion got on to a deer or goat track
and proceeded to follow that so that gave some relief what with that critter,
a cat and some dogs going before me the trail wasnt as bad going. Dont
know how those cats survive in the high country in the winter as the food animals
are few and far between. I guess when they do get on a track in the deep snow
the deer are a lot easier to bring down.
I caught up to the dogs in under an hour and they were milling about looking
somewhat confused but they straightened out whatever had them messed up and
carried on. I carried on for a while more and was taking a break as I was getting
pretty beat when I heard treeing not too far away. I got to the tree and looked
up and was quite surprised to see a wolverine climbing higher up into the branches
of a big fir. I guess he had come onto the trail of the cat and was following
along hoping to scrounge a meal at the kill if the cat made one. I guess where
he hit the trail is where the dogs got confused. I have seen tracks but have
never seen a wolverine in the wild. They really do have a nasty look about them
but are not very large.
I doubt I could have made a shot with my bow as he was quite high up but for
some reason had brought a 22 along, something I have never done before. To get
a shot though I had to climb a neighboring tree and shoot across. I got him
exactly between the eyes and he died immediately. Unfortunately it was so immediate
he didnt even come out. So down I come and up his tree. The only thing
is that some of the branches were dead and rather brittle. After a few broke
out from beneath me and my freezing hands could barely grip the limbs I plumb
chickened out and came down. What a pickle. The tree was huge so going to get
an axe was pointless. The only alternative would be to go back, get a chainsaw
and drag it all the way up through deep snow and at this point it was snowing
so even getting back up the road was questionable if the plow didnt return.
I decided to walk out the cat track a bit more and return in a while. Maybe
Gulo would relax or stiffen and come out.
Well when I came back he was still up there.
The alternatives were poor so I bit the bullet and went back up the tree. I
was a little warmer at this point and made it up and back down without mishap
but wondered if maybe I was getting a bit old for this kind of stuff. I think
a young hunting partner is in order. That boy of mine had better hurry and grow
up.
On closer inspection the wolverine was a male, weighed in at about 30 lbs at
45 inches. and was a foul smelling creature. Not as bad as a skunk but not very
pleasant either. Dont know how the dogs could stand chomping on him like
they were. I also dont know how a dog would do one on one with one of
these beasts. They have very powerful neck and shoulder muscles and very formidable
front claws. Similar to a bears except thinner and longer, much longer than
a bobcats. I will enclose a photo or two.
Going back to the vaults now for this little taste of spring from Bob McClellans
Back Country Ramblings. This is transcribed from a tape dated 1996-97
Well, this season is starting out pretty much the way I predicted it would.
The snow is gone from the mountains except for the very highest country. The
main problem is access. A lot of the roads to the trailheads are washed out,
including some of the major trailheads here in the wilderness area. Which of
course makes the places that are accessible all the more crowded. The tourists
stop at the Forest Service on their way in and find out that their major destination
points are still closed to the public, the roads havent been repaired
yet. So the Forest Service directs them to the places that are open and there
are an awful lot of back packers in there.
We did go up and camp at a trailhead about a week or so ago, a friend and I,
and there was just a steady stream of backpackers up and down the trail there.
We were the only horse people there at the trailhead and using the corrals but
there was just a steady stream of backpackers in and out of that country.
So anyway Im at home here for a few days and I talked to a neighbor of
mine and he said he thought that a road leading to one of my little hideaway
spots has been repaired. I tried to get up there earlier and it was washed out
down low. Its several miles on up the mountain to the trailhead so I hadnt
bothered with it. Anyway, my neighbor told me that road had been fixed, he thought.
So a couple of days ago I just got in the pickup and drove up there. I like
to check out some of these roads with just a pickup before I pull a horse trailer
up there and find out Im in trouble.
So anyway I drove up and, yeah, they had had a cat up there and fixed that washout.
Theyd run a grader on up the road to the trailhead and knocked some of
the major rock out of the road. It was still pretty rough but it was passable,
at least with a small horse trailer, all the way to the trailhead. I wouldnt
want to attempt to take a big stock trailer up there. You just couldnt
make it. But with just a small single or two horse trailer, yeah, you can make
it all the way up to the trailhead.
So I got up there and there was one pickup parked there, which I was surprised
to find, and the trail had been worked on. You could obviously see there had
been a trail crew up there. Well, with all the major damage done to the main
trails in this country I was kind of surprised to see that they had already
worked on this trail a little bit, spent the time and trouble on it. Yeah, thered
been a trail crew up there. And I thought I recognized that pickup. Like I say,
this is one of my little hideaway spots. Theres occasionally a few local
people go in there but thats about it. You dont find any tourist
traffic in there. But apparently, anyway, somebody was up there at the lake.
Well the next day I hitched up my little one horse trailer. Didnt need
a packhorse for this and didnt really feel like dragging her up that mountain.
So I just left her at home and just took my saddle horse and just took two dogs.
I took Punk (terrier x shepherd cross) and Kelly (Airedale). Still having trouble
with Casey (Airedale) with that abscess on his side. Had it operated on here
about a week and a half ago. And hes all wrapped up like a sore thumb
now, got a big bandage all around him. So I left him home and I sure hope this
is the end of that trouble.
So, anyway, I drove on up there to the trailhead again and that pickup was gone.
So I had the whole country to myself up there. So I saddled the little pony,
you know, and we rode on in there. Its not too far up that trail, its
only about three miles, but its a steep uphill go all the way. You kinda
got to want to go to this lake, you know. Its not one that everybody goes
to.
I had a pretty uneventful ride in there as far as wildlife goes. I didnt
see any sign, didnt see any critters, outside of maybe a chipmunk or two,
and the dogs didnt run anything. So we just had a pretty nice ride in
there. I enjoy riding in that country all the time. I just never get tired of
it.
So I got up there to the lake and tied my horse up, rigged up a fishing rod,
went over there and I started fishing with power bait, rigged up the bait rig,
fishing on the bottom. And I sat there and watched it for, oh, about a half
an hour and didnt get a bite. So, I thought, Oh, boy, its
gonna be one of these kind of days.
So I did see a golden eagle, a young, immature golden eagle, he still had some
white under the wings. He come drifting in and circled the lake a couple of
times and then drifted back off again. And Ive noticed here in the last
several years all our big fish eating birds like that, your golden eagle, your
bald eagle, osprey, theyve all come back real good in this country. I
see em up there at all the lakes. You know, oh, 15 or 20 years ago it
was kinda rare to see one. You know, the DDT had affected them so bad and everything
and they were getting pretty scarce in this country. But theyve made a
good, strong comeback. Its not unusual to see them at all any more. In
fact, it kinda unusual now if I dont see one back in there.
But anyway I got up and walked over to my saddlebags, you know, and got my lunch
out and came back down there where my rod was and pulled in my line and checked
my bait, switched colors, threw it back out there again, and doggone just as
I sat down to eat my lunch I got a bite. Doggone, switching colored bait I guess
was the ticket, because all of a sudden they wouldnt leave me alone long
enough to eat my lunch. It didnt take very long at all and I had me a
pretty nice string of fish. I had a limit of rainbows and the smallest one there
was about 11 inches and the biggest about 12 1/2 inches, so a pretty nice little
string of fish.
So I went ahead and sat there and ate my lunch and fooled around a little bit
and thunderheads begin to build up and I thought it might be a good time to
ease on back down the trail. So I got on the pony and had an uneventful ride
back down again. The dogs didnt run anything, didnt see anything
exceptional. And got on back down to the trailhead. Just a real, nice, easy,
enjoyable type of day. I spend quite a few of them out there in the hills like
that.
Well, its forecast now a cold front coming in and a pretty good chance
of rain here for the next couple of days. Not just showers but general rain.
So I imagine Ill stick around home here for a couple of days and see if
I cant get a few chores done. And as soon as it clears up Ill pick
me another spot and go for it.
If that doesnt get you itching for the ice to come off the lakes I dont
know what will. Well thats it! Talk to you in a couple months.
The quote of the month submitted by Henry S Johnson Jr. is - "A nation
of sheep will beget a government of wolves." (Edward R. Murrow).
As Henry always said: Until next month, let me hear from you Airedale
people and dont forget to put your arms around those black and tan dogs
with the beards and the moustaches and talk to them. They are people dogs and
family members.
Respectfully submitted, Clint Stubbe, Northern Corresponding Secretary for the
Working Airedale Terrier Association. No rules, regulations, officers, dues
or formal affiliations. Its more a state of mind.