Tuesday, February 17, 2004
Stairway to Heaven Backwards Update
I have been pretty excited about the traffic my Stairway to Heaven Backwards page has been generating lately. It has been getting just under the 5000 mark for the last three days. In honor of the high hit count, I have decided to post a few of the comments that I received about the page lately. I am also thinking about creating a place for comments on the actual page.
I suppose I should mention that I am posting these messages verbatim so those of you with delicate sensibilities may find the language in one of the posts offensive.
"Hello..
My name is Haukur and I live in Iceland. I just saw your flash thing on stairway to heaven and I think it's awesome. How in the world did they do that? So I was wondering if you have the rest of the backwards lyrics in text that you can e-mail me? If you could then that would be great.
Thanks in advance..."
Well honestly I don't know how Led Zeppelin did that, or if they even did it on purpose. I did try reading the forwards lyrics myself and playing them backwards and the backwards recording did sound like the same message you hear when playing the song backwards.
I don't know the rest of the backwards lyrics in other places in the song so I couldn't tell you. Sorry.
"Hi
I have just heard and seen the backwards thing that you made about the song Stairway to Heaven. I have heard these things too but not to the extent that you have showed. There is another part in the song where the lyrics go "your stairway lies on the whispering winds." I have heard this to say "I smoke weed for Satan" when you play it backwards on the record. There are supposed to be other parts but that is the one that stuck out to me when I heard it. You did well on this. Except on the lyrics part you have them wrong. They go "there are two paths you can go by" you have "there are two paths you can go back." No big deal. But I always try to tell my friends about this and they never believe me so I will send them a link to it. Thanks a bunch.
BEN"
Thanks for the update. I'll double check to make sure I have the right lyrics and update the page when I am back in Lethbridge.
"hey man i dont htink thats real cause the lyrics bacwards dont match it fowards there completely different and where the fuck did 666 come from dude its not right..u need to stop telllin ppl fake shit and stop makin up this stuff"
Actually I have to admit I did make up the "reverse lyrics". I based them on what other webpages said you were supposed to hear and what I, myself, heard. I realize that a lot of people only hear the message when they click on the show reverse lyrics button and play it but nevertheless it makes one think about the power of suggestion and how people hear what they want to, or in your case I guess you don't hear what you don't want to.
"im not one to say anything is fake or done for kick's but my curiosity of listening to this a few times i have to know how did you find out how to reverse it and what besides what you said gave you the idea to do this. i mean i am a "led zeppelin" fan non-the less but like i said its odd how for a song called stair way to heaven it has satantic writings. i mean exactly how would someone figure something like this out?.
sincerly.
misa,16"
Well Misa, as far as this being fake, it is what it is. The fact is that when you play parts of Stairway to Heaven backwards, it sounds like there are satanic messages. Now whether or not the messages were intentional is an entirely different story and frankly it makes no difference (that is just my opinion though).
You said something along the lines of how odd it is that a song called Stairway to Heaven has satanic messages in it. I do not think it is actually that odd. Now I am no expert so what I am about to say is mostly opinion. If I remember correctly the song is about Lilith (Adams first Wife in Hebrew Mythology). The lyrics are pretty ambiguous but they tell a story of a lady (notice she is never called a woman - this is significant if you read about Lilith) who is trying to get to heaven. Here is the first stanza:
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
And when she gets there she knows if the stores are closed
With a word she can get what she came for
So instead of getting to Heaven through Christ (as Christian religion teaches is the only way to heaven) she is trying to buy her way to heaven with money. This is sort of alluding to the story of the Tower of Babel in that the people in that story are building their way to heaven. But when she gets to Heaven the stores are closed. I would have thought the word "doors" would have been more appropriate than "stores" nevertheless I guess "stores" emphasizes the idea not only that the doors are closed but also that you cant buy things in heaven. She does know that a password will get her what she wants. I guess the lyrics imply that there is a special word you need to say to get into heaven.
There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
And you know sometimes words have two meanings
In the tree by the brook there's a songbird who sings
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven
Frankly I have no idea what the sign on the wall is referring to. It is obviously some kind of message or rules (considering that's what most signs are). She is uncertain, however, as to the meaning of the sign. Words having more than one meaning could be in reference to the fact that if you play the song backwards you will hear messages but more probably it is just the fact that a lot of times the rules or instructions in life (especially coming from religious sources) are often very confusing. Remember this is all just opinion. The songbird who sings in the tree by the brook also alludes me. I guess a songbird could be a messenger or perhaps an angel - either way the lyrics read that sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven so whoever or whatever the songbird represents we might not understand correctly anyway. Again perhaps in reference to the fact that words have more than one meaning.
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking
Well here is my attempt at this stanza. If the song is about Lilith then maybe looking to the west is her looking back on Eden from her new home East of Eden after she was ousted from the Garden for being a bad helpmate to Adam. Her spirit is crying for leaving Eden and she remembers the smoke through the trees (smoke in Old Testament times was often symbolic of the smoke from the cleansing power of god and as such used in burning altars). The voices of those who stand looking would be the Gods talking to Adam in the garden.
And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forest will echo with laughter
I would guess that this is talking about how if we all are good believers that Christ will come to earth and lead us to truth. The new day is the millennium and those who stand long are those that never give up their faith. The forest echoing with laughter is a return to Eden.
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now
It's just a spring clean for the May Queen
Yes there are two paths you can go by
but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on
This is the section of the song that when played backwards sounds like satanic messages. If there's a bustle in your hedgerow could be talking about the wicked people of the earth and the spring clean might be the cleansing of the earth both by water (the Biblical story of Noah and the Ark) and by fire (John the Revelator's explaination of what's going to happen before the Second Coming). The two paths you can go by are symbolic and allude to following the path God has set out for us or following a path set by Lucifer. Even in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on. I guess this means you can go ahead and procrastinate the day of your repentance - a different message than you would get from most pastors' points of view.
Your head is humming and it won't go because you don't know
The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady can't you hear the wind blow and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind
So if all of this confusing you it's because you don't know what is right. The piper's calling you to join him (still assuming this is Christ calling for you to repent). The lady, Lilith, has her stairway on the wind - not a very solid foundation to say the least.
And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our souls
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Woe oh oh oh oh oh
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
So as the artists make their way through life, the road that they chose is leading them to darkness not light. Our shadows taller than our souls. The lady we all know is probably Lilith - shining in white light and showing how everything that glitters is gold. She is however only imitating God. That's the whole point of the song. The Stairway to Heaven is an imitation created to make you think you can make it to heaven on your own. The tune will come to you at last - it will all make sense one day when all people have united in the one true religion and the rock coming down the mountain will be a solid foundation (not to roll). I think he's implying that following the path he's chosen is the right one, but remember the point of the song is imitation. Lilith is still buying a stairway to heaven.
Not that I believe any of this.
posted by Jeff Milner at 2/17/2004 12:22:00 PM
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Marshall
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drew
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6:59 PM (Permalink)
"In the tree by the brook"
Recalling something I heard in Sunday school, I believe this may have to do with a certain tree in heaven that stands beside a brook. It's said that the tree grows a different type of fruit each month.
This is what Revelation 22:2 says:
"-down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."
Bellator_Fortus
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Philipe
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Comment posted by effisk at 4:35 AM (Permalink)
stairway to heaven is probably the deepest song led zeppelin wrote, and possibly one of the most controversial songs in history as to its exact meaning. and what did plant have to say about its meaning?
he said, simply, that the band was so high on "rock and weed" when they wrote the song, that the band has no idea what the song was about either. i'd say that the interpretation on this site is one of the best i've read, though.
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Or maybe it's just a coincidence. Maybe this is all a bunch of over-analyzing.
So yeah, it doesn't really matter, in my opinion. It doesn't bother me if it was intentional, 'cause it's not all that important. I mean, people are throwing out their records just because it has a "satanic message" in it? I see it as a little fun by the band members. Who knows, or cares, if it's intentional or if it is really a statement of devotion to satan?
Whatever. :)
-- Sid
Comment posted by Sid at 10:14 AM (Permalink)
my name is jordan. i am a rather big led zeppelin fan and in my search for zeppelin secrets i have came across many things. what my post is about is the refrence to the line in stairway to heaven
" Yes there are two paths you can go by
but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on" i have found that this could be about the church of satan. the church of satan beleives that in life there are two paths, one is light(god)one is dark(satan). their beleives are that once you start down one path you are stuck on that path. but as you can see in the lyrics
"There's still time to change the road you're on" as i can see it this means that even though you have chosen a path there is still time to change your path.
p.s. sorry about any spelling errors.
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Thanks again,
Kyle Siverhus,15,wis.
Comment posted by Kyle S. at 9:30 AM (Permalink)
Definatly goes with the theme you have put to the lyrics. It IS about Led Zepplin or maybe just Robert Plant(he wrote the song)and the path they have chosen. Which is the same path Lillith chose. To try to find Heaven on earth through worldly things cause she is sure "All that glitters is gold" but if that dont work and "The stores are all closed"
"With a word she can get what she came for." I think that word would be "forgiveness". Which goes with that fact that the bible tells us we can always ask for forgiveness at any point in your life and be forgiven. Example: The 2 men with Jesus on the crosses. One of the men asked Jesus to "Remeber me" Jesus "forgave" him of his sins right then, and the man went to Heaven.
It seems to me that Led Zepplin has chosen to take the path of worldy pleasure. Like Lillith. "All that glitters is gold....Buying a Stairway to Heaven..." If that dont work though they are counting on the fact that "theres still time to change the road your on"--"With a word she can get what she came for"
Possibly means "With a word"-Forgiveness- "She can get what she came for"-Heaven.
I think though that sometime later Robert Plant may have had doubts about this plan for his life.
In the live version of "Stairway to Heaven" from "The Song Remains the Same."
After signing the lyrics. "Yes there are two path you can go by but in the long run. Theres still time to change the road your on."
Robert Plant say "I hope so"
Which he should cause no man knows when they will die. So what if he dies before he asks for forgiveness?
Comment posted by UglyEd at 11:50 AM (Permalink)
Definatly goes with the theme you have put to the lyrics. It IS about Led Zepplin or maybe just Robert Plant(he wrote the song)and the path they have chosen. Which is the same path Lillith chose. To try to find Heaven on earth through worldly things cause she is sure "All that glitters is gold" but if that dont work and "The stores are all closed"
"With a word she can get what she came for." I think that word would be "forgiveness". Which goes with that fact that the bible tells us we can always ask for forgiveness at any point in your life and be forgiven. Example: The 2 men with Jesus on the crosses. One of the men asked Jesus to "Remeber me" Jesus "forgave" him of his sins right then, and the man went to Heaven.
It seems to me that Led Zepplin has chosen to take the path of worldy pleasure. Like Lillith. "All that glitters is gold....Buying a Stairway to Heaven..." If that dont work though they are counting on the fact that "theres still time to change the road your on"--"With a word she can get what she came for"
Possibly means "With a word"-Forgiveness- "She can get what she came for"-Heaven.
I think though that sometime later Robert Plant may have had doubts about this plan for his life.
In the live version of "Stairway to Heaven" from "The Song Remains the Same."
After signing the lyrics. "Yes there are two path you can go by but in the long run. Theres still time to change the road your on."
Robert Plant say "I hope so"
Which he should cause no man knows when they will die. So what if he dies before he asks for forgiveness?
Comment posted by UglyEd at 11:50 AM (Permalink)
Definatly goes with the theme you have put to the lyrics. It IS about Led Zepplin or maybe just Robert Plant(he wrote the song)and the path they have chosen. Which is the same path Lillith chose. To try to find Heaven on earth through worldly things cause she is sure "All that glitters is gold" but if that dont work and "The stores are all closed"
"With a word she can get what she came for." I think that word would be "forgiveness". Which goes with that fact that the bible tells us we can always ask for forgiveness at any point in your life and be forgiven. Example: The 2 men with Jesus on the crosses. One of the men asked Jesus to "Remeber me" Jesus "forgave" him of his sins right then, and the man went to Heaven.
It seems to me that Led Zepplin has chosen to take the path of worldy pleasure. Like Lillith. "All that glitters is gold....Buying a Stairway to Heaven..." If that dont work though they are counting on the fact that "theres still time to change the road your on"--"With a word she can get what she came for"
Possibly means "With a word"-Forgiveness- "She can get what she came for"-Heaven.
I think though that sometime later Robert Plant may have had doubts about this plan for his life.
In the live version of "Stairway to Heaven" from "The Song Remains the Same."
After signing the lyrics. "Yes there are two path you can go by but in the long run. Theres still time to change the road your on."
Robert Plant say "I hope so"
Which he should cause no man knows when they will die. So what if he dies before he asks for forgiveness?
Comment posted by UglyEd at 11:52 AM (Permalink)
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Comment posted by odwyer04 at 12:14 AM (Permalink)
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
(The Lady is the True Church or the members of the Church (The woman spoken of in Rev 12:13-17))
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
(She has accepted the pathway to heaven.)
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
(She knows the way to heaven which is shut.)
With a word she can get what she came for.
(Through Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is the word (John 1, Rev 19:13), she can have Eternal life.)
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.
(She is taking the pathway to heaven)
There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
(She understands that there are those that can deceive her)
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings,
(The song bird could represent one who speaks truth. The Holy Spirit is often referred to as a Dove, which could be a song bird. The Holy Spirit is one who wispers truth. A tree by the brook is the tree of life... The brook represents the sins that would keep her (the church) from the tree of life.)
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.
(Sometimes one doubts. It’s interesting to note there is no such word as misgiven. Maybe the words are misgiving instead.)
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder.
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
(The artist is referring to himself. To look to the west means to look opposite of the East. In order to look to the west you must turn your back on the east. Christ will come from the east. I believe the artist is turning his back on Christ.)
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
(His spirit cries for leaving or he would rather be dead. His body was given to him by God and now he despises that which God has given him.)
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees,
(A forest was often the place of satanic worship. Smoke through the trees could refer to a sacrificial burning in the forest.)
And the voices of those who standing looking.
(Obviously those around the fire looking on.)
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it really makes me wonder.
And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
(A piper is often referred to someone who would take one away and deceive them such as the pied piper. The piper is Satan who will deceive us, by reason, so it would seem.)
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
(A new day to dawn refers to the thousand years after Satan has been bound (Rev 20:9).)
And the forests will echo with laughter.
(The return of Satan will cause Satan to laugh once again at God.)
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now,
(The bustle means the confusion you may feel by these words, a hedgerow refers to the buffer you may have provided yourself to protect you against Satan.)
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
(The May queen, is another reference to Satan the imitator. Easter Comes before May. Christ's resurrection is celebrated on Easter. May is the time of the celebration of May Day, and the May Queen. May Day is a pagan Holiday that at one time was celebrated with masks much like Halloween. The spring clean for May is what is celebrated on May Day. I believe the lyrics are referring to Satan’s invitation to join him as suggested in the next set of lyrics. This is exactly how Satan operates. First the invitation is marred by a play on words then it is a suggestion and then once he has you it is right there as plain as day.)
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
(You can always join Satan. These lyrics are for those that are on the pathway to Heaven.)
And it makes me wonder.
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
(The humming is the confusion of these lyrics if one understands them.)
The piper's calling you to join him,
(Satan is calling)
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
(The wind refers to the deceiving spirits words that will tempt her.)
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
(The whispering wind means that through life Satan will tempt her.)
And as we wind on down the road
(As we continue through life)
Our shadows taller than our soul.
(Nearing the end of time.)
There walks a lady we all know
(The Lady is the true church of Christ)
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold.
(If you do what Christ has asked you can enter the Kingdom of God.)
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
(The tune is the song of the piper that he is referring to.)
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.
(The artist believes that if you listen you can accept and become one with Satan. This is the biggest deception of all. The lyrics are so closely related to what Christ has spoken of but are flatly a deception of the Truth. )
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
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"a lady who knows all that glitters is gold"
- drugs, being high = good
"when she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed, with a word she can get what she came for"
- this seems pretty obvious, a chick going downtown to score some dope... even if its late, and everythings closed, all she has to do is talk to a pusher
"and shes buying a stairway to heaven"
- DRUGS = stairway... being high = heaven
Now its also common knowledge that the band screwed around with occultism, new age stuff - especially Page, who bought Aleister Crowley's old house for them to party and record music in. So, references to gnosticism, occultism, even straight up fantasy "and in the darkest depths of Mordor... but gollum and the evil one", etc. in the songs should be a given. Its also fairly common knowlegde that Zeppelin partied HARD at that time - lots of drugs, heavy psychedelic trips, etc.
So basically the power and majesty of the lyrics is really not surprising in context. This particular song is considered a masterpeice because it has all the requisite qualities of such a work. It also happens to be from a time period which was the high-water mark of the psychedelic movement, and thus has an even more powerful and intense mystery to it.
So the multi-dimensional quality CANNOT be understated in this case. Elements of many themes are playing in this song - but the central thesis is about D R U G S. It is imminently obvious (at least to anyone thats tried them) that the "stairway to heaven" is exactly that. In the song, Plant also alludes to the "fall from Eden" and other such "heavenly" myths - to illustrate and flesh out the poetry. In a sense, it is the same conflict. The apple, the stairway to heaven, the fall, the return... Timeless myths in a modern, relevant context. Thats why the song strikes such a chord in people.



