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I wanted to clarify a couple of things:
Gurdjieff's birth date has now generally been accepted as 1866.

His teaching is only 'difficult to get a consistent picture' of because the 'many schools established in his name' have no direct link to Gurdjieff himself nor his first generation of students (who, for the most part,  never organized a formal school). Others making the claim of being a 'center' or a school have nothing in common with Gurdjieff himself other than exploiting his name and appropriating his ideas: "people cannot perceive reality in their current state because they do not possess a unified consciousness, but rather live in a state of a hypnotic "waking sleep"."

As for Gurdjieff's influence, I believe it is accurate to say that it has indeed been tremendous, but in regard to 'enlightened successors,' Gurdjieff's teachings were/are not structured in a way that was meant to establish a successor. The continuance of Gurdjieff's legacy of ideas and practical work has primarily been due to efforts made by some of his closest students. For the most part, the only duly formalized organization, and the only one Gurdjieff himself initiated shortly before his death in 1949 is the Gurdjieff Foundation:

[Sarlo adds: iagf = International Association of the Gurdjieff Foundations, formed jointly by the four foundations "established on the direct instructions" of Gurdjieff, in Paris, London, New York and Caracas.]

Those who belong to these groups continue to study and do so quietly. They do not proselytize nor advertise. They do from time to time conduct introductory public talks.

As for the question of 'waning influence,' that is very difficult to objectively ascertain. There are in fact many IAGF study groups spread across 34 states in the USA, as well as the UK, France, Canada, India and Australia.

~ anon

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