Huangbo Xiyun
Jap.  Obaku Kiun
Mt. Huangbo (Yellow Corktree)    Rare Motion
born:  c. 770
died:  c. 850   

place:  China
Chan master:  Baizhang (J., Hyakujo)
Chan disciples:  Linji (J. Rinzai), ...
Huangbo was born in Fuzhou.  He traveled
extensively in southern China, ending up at
Wanfu Temple on a mountain he named
Huangbo(in Jiangxi Province), after a different
mountain he had lived on earlier in the Fujian
area with the same name.

According to tradition Huangbo was about 7 feet
tall, and had a forehead that protruded like a
great pearl.
posthumous name: Zen Master Removing

stupa name:  Spacious Karma
Blue Cliff Record, Case 11

Live Zen, ch. 5

Zen: The Quantum Leap From Mind to No-mind,
ch. 3, ch. 15

The Original Man, ch. 3

Nansen: The Point of Departure, ch. 7
            oshobob  The Living Workshop                                        
                                                        Zen Masters
Obaku addressed the assembly and said, “You
are all partakers of brewer’s grain. If you go on
studying Zen like that, you will never finish it. Do
you know that in all the land of T’ang there is no
Zen teacher?”

Then a monk came forward and said, “But surely
there are those who teach disciples and preside
over the assemblies. What about that?”

Obaku said, “I do not say that there is no Zen,
but that there is no Zen teacher...”

I hope things are very simple….

If there is no Catholic church, no pope, there will
be no Christianity, because Christianity has
nothing to do with existence’s essence. If there is
no shankaracharya and no Hindu monks,
existence will just remain the same as it is. Their
being or not being does not affect existence.
Certainly their doctrines will disappear, their
congregations will not be held anymore. Their
teachers and their masters and their disciples will
not be there. And if these people think Hinduism
is dependent on these scriptures,
shankaracharyas, then certainly there will be no
Hinduism either.

Except Zen, no religion has been so intensely
clear about its own existential status. The others
are only aware about their theologies, their
scriptures, their teachers, their masters, their
disciples. They are all very superficial – just
waves on the ocean. But Zen has never for a
single moment identified itself with the waves. It
consistently emphasizes, “I am the ocean. Waves
come and go; the ocean remains. Many more
waves will come and go; it does not affect the
ocean in any way.”

Obaku was right when he said that there is no
Zen. There were many teachers and many
followers, but they don’t constitute the reality of

                                         Live Zen, ch. 5