Some Popular Neo-Advaita Positions Debunked
(It's not that they aren't true, nor even that they have no utility, but . . .
from posts to the Guru Ratings Forum)

by Durga

Bad Teachings (IMO)

1. There is no free-will. 

2. Everything is predestined.

3. There is no dharma or adharma or karma
(no good or bad, no natural order, and no 
consequences for one's actions)

4. There is no doer.

What's wrong with this picture, if anything?

The thing about those statements is that many
of them are actually true from the absolute
standpoint. From that standpoint there is no doer, 
there is no karma, no dharma, no adharma, no good, 
no bad. No one acting. No one suffering.

But the problems come when the 'teacher' says
these statements as if these statements apply 
to the relative level of existence where there is
good and bad, where there is choice and consequence.

This is called 'level mixing'

From the absolute standpoint nothing at all
matters, and nothing has ever happened, and nothing
can happen. There is only that One which I am,
and you are, and which is actually all that is.
And nothing on the relative level of existence can
affect that one, all relative activities themselves
being indeed an effect of that one.

However from the relative point of view where 
there is diversity and multiplicity, (which in
and of themselves can be said to have no independent
existence of their own), there are consequences.

So to agree with those statements, IMO, is alright,
and in fact some of them are correct from a certain
POV, but to apply them to the level of reality 
where action occurs, can lead to tremendous suffering for
the individual who does not understand the way that
the creation operates. For the individual who does not 
understand that here, on this level of existence, there
is cause and effect. For the individual who takes that
which only applies to the absolute, and applies it to 
the relative. For the person who thinks that it doesn't
matter what one does, and that one has free license to do
anything with impunity, then that person, that body/mind/
sense organs individual, will surely suffer the results
of their actions, actions which they might not have done 
had they understood the consequences properly.

This is the point I was trying to make. And the lack
of understanding of these very basic things has caused
a lot of confusion and suffering, which I've seen 
first hand.

Good teachings IMO separate out what is what. What
applies to the relative (dharma and adharma). What
applies to the absolute (there is nothing which can
affect that). Then explain, how is that which
is relative actually that which is absolute? How
do they relate? How are they the same? Teachings which 
explain all of that correctly, and not in a way that 
is all jumbled up and causes trouble.

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