Daniel Was An Amazing Forecaster
Simplified Summary: "And it came to pass in the month Nisan..." (Neh. 2.1) starts off Nisan 1 in 444 B.C., the declaration of the building of the temple noted in Neh 2.8, "And a letter unto Asaph the keeper of the king's forest, that he may give me timber to make beams for the gates of the palace which [appertained] to the house, and for the wall of the city, and for the house that I shall enter into. And the king granted me, according to the good hand of my God upon me." From this day to Nisan 10, 33 AD, March 30th, the day Jesus entered Jerusalem, is exactly 483 Biblical years = 30x12x483 =173,880 days. 483 years is used because that is number in Daniel's prophecy in 9.25, "seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks" (69x7). "After threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off". This prophecy has been fulfilled because 444 BC Nisan 1 to Nisan 14, April 1 (Friday), 33 AD is more than 173,880 days and the 173,880 days extends beyond 30 AD.
The Times of Your Life - A solar year is actually 365.2475 days in the modern Gregorian calendar, but 365.25 days in the Julian calendar (because there is a leap year every 4 years) that would have been used during the 1st Century AD. The length of a Gregorian year is 365.2425 days (because there is a leap year every 4 years, but not in years ending in "00" unless the year is divisible by 400, when it is still a leap year). The Gregorian year is accurate to 1 day in 3000 years. For complete accuracy, we would need a calendar that averaged 365.24219879 days, because it takes the Earth 365.24219879 days to orbit the Sun (the so-clled "tropical year", i.e. the interval between two transits of the Sun through the equinoxes). Finally, just to confuse us all, there is also the "sidereal year" - 365.25636042 days - this is the interval for the Sun to return to the same point on the ecliptic (i.e. with the stars in the same positions above our heads). Added from Gary Turner: The gap of 25 days is less than a month, which, considering the modern Hebrew and Gregorian calendars can differ by this amount from year to year because of the different ways in which they work, and that Neh. 2:1 is actually quite vague about which day of the month of Nisan is being referred to, the fact that the prophecy is accurate to the month, not just the year, is quite amazing!
Gary Turner: The
difference between the two
Nissan 14 dates is that
Nissan 14 was April 3st if
you convert it to the Julian
Calendar (which the Romans
were using at the time) but
April 1rd if you convert it
to the Gregorian Calendar
(which we use now, because
it is more accurate).
Looking at the "decimal
points" after the 365, let's
take it from first
principles:
The Julian calendar had a
leap year every 4 years,
which added exactly a
quarter of a day, on
average, to the length of
the average year - so the
Julian year was 365.25 days
long.
The Gregorian Calendar has a
leap year every 4 years if
the year is not divisible by
100, but if it is divisible
by 100, that year is NOT a
leap year UNLESS it is also
divisible by 400. This makes
the length of the average
Gregorian year 365 + (1/4) -
(1/100) + (1/400) = 365.2425
days per year. Since this is
the more accurate
calculation, this is the one
you should use over large
stretches of time (such as
173, 880 days). However,
remember the 2-day
difference between the
Gregorian and Julian
calendars at this time -
which gradually became
larger over the centuries,
hence the need to introduce
the new calendar in the 16th
Century).
This means that neither
figure of 365.24 nor
365.2475 should be used, but
365.2425 instead. However,
all of this is rather
academic, since we are only
using 173, 880 days as a
calculation tool - I don't
think Daniel's prophecy is
claiming to be accurate to
the exact day - after all,
it's only saying that Jesus
would be cut off after 483
"prophetic" years - so we
can only expect accuracy to
the correct year, not to the
exact day.
As for finding a calendar to
plug all this into, the Web
site I originally used is
now defunct, and others that
I have come across only
convert "modern" dates, so
if you can find one out
there that goes back to AD 1
or earlier, please let me
know!
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Leap year |
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10th Century AD |
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7 |
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14th Century AD |
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8 |
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15th Century AD |
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9 |
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16th Century AD |
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AD 1582 |
Gregorian calendar introduced by Pope |
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AD 1600 |
Leap year |
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10 |
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18th Century AD |
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11 |
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AD 1752 |
Gregorian calendar introduced in Britain |
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20th Century AD |
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2000 AD |
Leap year |
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For additional details, I have organized this reasoning from the general to the specific, and it is an awesome proof (thanks to Glen Amyklein):
My footnotes to NLT:
Ezra 6:15 Aramaic on the
third day of the month Adar,
of the Hebrew calendar. This
event occurred on March 12,
515 B.C.; also see note on
3:1. The temple was
completed in 515 B.C.
6:19 Hebrew On the
fourteenth day of the first
month, of the Hebrew
calendar. This event
occurred on April 21, 515
B.C.; also see note on
3:1.zra 7.1 There is a gap
of almost 60 years between
the events of chapters 6 and
7. The story in the book of
Esther occured during this
time, in the reign of
Xerxes, who ruled from
486-465 B.C. Artaxerxes, his
son, became king in 465, and
Ezra returned to Jerusalem
in 458.
7.6 Eighty years after the
first exhiles returned to
Jerusalem (2.1), Ezra
himself returned. This was
his first trip, and it took
four months. The Temple had
been standing for about 58
years. Up to this point in
the narrative, Ezra had
remained in Babylon,
probably compiling a record
of events that taken place.
Why did he have to ask the
king if he could return?
Ezra wanted to lead many
Jews back to Jerusalem, and
he needed a decree from the
king stating that any Jew
who wanted to return could
do so. This decree would be
like a passport in case they
ran into opposition along
the way.
1.1 The book of Ezra opens
in 538 BC, 48 years after
Nebuchadneezer destroyed
Jerusalem, defeated the
southern kingdom of Judah,
and carried the Jews away to
Babylon as captives (2 Kings
25; 2 Chron 36).
Nebuchadneezar died in 562,
and because his successors
were not strong, Babylon was
overthrown by Persia in 539,
just prior to the events
recordered in Ezra. Both
Babylon and Persia had
relaxed policies towards
captives, allowing them to
return to their homes and
take ordinary jobs.
1.1 Jeremaiah prophesied
that the Jews would remain
in captivity for 70 years (Jeremaiah
25.11, 29.10). The 70 year
period has been calculated
two different ways: (1) form
the first captivity in 605
BC (2 Kings 24.1) until the
altar was rebuilt by the by;
the returning exiles in 537
(Ezra 3.1-6), or (2) from
the detruction of the Temple
in 586 until the exiles
finished the rebuilding in
515. Many scholars prefer
the second approach because
the Temple was the focus and
heartbeat of the nation.
Without the Temple, the Jews
did not consider themselves
established as a nation.
1:1 The first year of
Cyrus's reign was 538 B.C.
Neh. 2:1 Hebrew In the month
of Nisan. This month of the
Hebrew lunar calendar
occurred in April and May
445 B.C.
Ezra 1:1 The first year of
Cyrus's reign was 538 B.C.
7:1 Artaxerxes reigned
465–424 B.C.
7:1 Or descendant; see 1 Chr
6:14.
7:3 Or descendant; see 1 Chr
6:6-10.
7:8 Hebrew in the fifth
month. This month of the
Hebrew lunar calendar
occurred in August and
September 458 B.C.
7:9 Hebrew on the first day
of the first month, of the
Hebrew calendar. This event
occurred on April 8, 458
B.C.; also see note on 3:1.
3.1 Hebrew - in the seventh
month. The year is not
specific, so it may have
been during Cyrus's first
year (538 BC) or second year
(537 BC). The seventh month
of the Hebrew lunar calendar
occurred in Sept/Oct 538 BC
and Oct/Nov 537 BC.
7:9 Hebrew on the first day
of the fifth month, of the
Hebrew calendar. This event
occurred on August 4, 458
B.C.; also see note on 3:1.
7:12 The original text of
7:12-26 is in Aramaic.
These specific verses in Ezra 1, 6, 7 and Nehemiah 2 have associated with them specific dates in the Scriptures to events at 538 B.C, 515 B.C., 458 B.C. and 445 B.C.. We know that the key word found is in Daniel 9.26 is that the Messiah will be cut off "after" 62 weeks (see below), so that any date older than or on Nisan 1, 444 B.C. are what we are trying to locate according to the Word of God as the starting point for the 483 years (that is, 7 weeks plus 62 weeks, though the last 7 year last week of the 70 weeks were not subsequently fulfilled because to consummate the last week -the last seven - there has to be an end of sin, as would be seen at Christ's return when He returns on the mount of olives. Zec 14:4 "On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives." Daniel 9.24 "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins." The only date that is appropriate, therefore, is 445 B.C. (more exacting precise details below) in Neh. 2.1-8 for the date "going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the anointed one" (Dan. 9.25) because 173,880 (69x7x360) days prior to Christ being cut off at 33 A.D. on the cross takes us to a time that follows when the declaration is made prior, which is necessary for this to be a true fulfilling prophecy since a solar years is approximately 365.24 days; and 365.24x(445+33) = 174,585 days. As you can see, the declaration did indeed proceed and was longer than the time constraint minimally required set forth in Daniel 9.25 of 69 weeks. The declaration was made in Neh. 2.1-8, not found elsewhere, not in the event of 458 B.C. that proceeded by 13 years which was not to rebuild the temple. Neh. 2.8 says "And a letter unto Asaph the keeper of the king's forest, that he may give me timber to make beams for the gates of the palace which [appertained] to the house, and for the wall of the city, and for the house that I shall enter into. And the king granted me, according to the good hand of my God upon me." Neither does the declaration in 538 B.C. suffice as "the declaration" at that time because the temple was completed afterwards at 515 B.C., 33 years after, not 49 years (seven 7's). So that leaves only one choice, 445 B.C.
Watchman Nee said in his
studies on page 82-89, CFP,
in book format of Aids to
Revelation (72-73 computer
format, CFP),
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"Here we will not investigate as to when the seventy-sevens actually commenced. One fact is enough for us, however, which is, that we know the Anointed One did come after the sixty-nine sevens (seven sevens plus sixty-two sevens). From the time of the decree concerning the rebuilding of Jerusalem to the moment of the coming of the Anointed One, there were to be four hundred eighty-three years. Now that the sixty-nine sevens have already passed and the Anointed One (Christ) has also come, what is left is the last seven. As soon as the last seven is fulfilled the children of Israel will receive the fullness of blessing of Daniel 9.24. However, within the seven years of the death of Christ, was there any day which could have been deemed as a time when transgression was finished for the children of Israel and upon Jerusalem? No, not even a single day. And have there not been over nineteen hundred more years since the time of Christ and still no end of transgression? Hence, it is quite evident that the seventieth seven did not follow immediately after the sixty-nine sevens.
Why is it that this one seven has not been fulfilled and that the children of Israel have not yet received the full blessing? Because “after the threescore and two weeks [the sixty-two sevens mentioned above] shall the anointed one be cut off, and shall have nothing.” Christ has died, and consequently the children of Israel did not receive the blessing. It was because they would not receive Him with willing hearts but crucified Him instead, and therefore punishment came upon them. “The people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary” (v.26). When the Jews insisted on killing the Lord Jesus, they openly declared: “His blood be on us, and on our children” (Matt. 27.25). Naturally God is treating them according to their own word by temporarily rejecting them and showing grace towards the Gentiles. But after the number of the Gentiles has been fulfilled, He will give grace once again to the children of Israel. And at that time, this last seven shall be fulfilled. As soon as the last seven is over, God will deliver the children of Israel according to promise (Dan. 9.24). |
For a deeper understanding of this read section 12. Please read section 12. It is really helpful to have the proper foundation. I can see there is a very clear reason why Watchman Nee did not claim any particular start dates, either 445 B.C. or 444 B.C. as you will discover below.
A 360 day "prophetic/Biblical" year is used by the Scriptures in Daniel and Revelation (3.5 years, 42 months, 1260 days). This evidence is DIRECTLY related to Daniel's 70 weeks. A source states,
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Because
of
national
sin,
Judah
was
brought
under
servitude
to
Babylon
for
seventy
years,
this was
in the
third
year of
King
Jehoiakim
(606
BC). But
the
people
continued
obdurate;
and in
589 BC
the far
severer
judgment
of the
captivity
fell on
them.
The
above
speaking
of the
judgment
of the
desolations...
Accordingly,
the
Babylonian
armies
invaded
Judea
and the
city was
devastated
and
burned.
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Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth.... from 445 B.C. is the date being referred to here which is really 444 B.C. I am told because apparently between 1 B.C. and 0 A.D. there is no year at all. It makes no sense but that is what Julian calendar experts say, I am told. Go figure. The reason why 445 is the declaration of rebuilding the temple in Neh. 2.1-8 is because my NLT says so. But according to this source, it is wrong,
The date of
this decree is given in the
biblical record. Nehemiah
1:1 states that Nehemiah
heard of Jerusalem’s
desolate conditions in the
month of Chislev (November/
December) in Artaxerxes'
twentieth year. Then later
in Artaxerxes' twentieth
year in the month of Nisan
(March/April) Nehemiah
reports that he was granted
permission to restore the
city and build its walls
(2:1). To have Nisan later
than Chislev (in the same
year) may seem strange until
one realizes that Nehemiah
was using a Tishri-to-Tishri
(September/October) dating
method rather than the
Persian Nisan-to-Nisan
method. Nehemiah was
following what was used by
the kings of Judah earlier
in their history. This
method used by Nehemiah is
confirmed by the Jews in
Elephantine who also used
this method during the same
time period as Nehemiah.
Next, one needs to establish
the beginning of Artaxerxes'
rule. His father Xerxes died
shortly after December 17,
465 B.C. and Artaxerxes
immediately succeeded him.
Since the accession-year
system was used the first
year of Artaxerxes' reign
according to the Persian
Nisan-to-Nisan reckoning
would be Nisan 464 to Nisan
463 and according to the
Jewish Tishri-to-Tishri
reckoning would be Tishri
464 to Tishri 463. . . .
In conclusion, the report to
Nehemiah (1:1) occurred in
Chislev (November/December)
of 445 B.C. and the decree
of Artaxerxes (2:1) occurred
in Nisan (March/April of 444
B.C. Therefore, Nisan
444 B.C. marks the terminus
ad quo of the seventy weeks
of Daniel 9:24-27.
476 solar years is the difference between 444 B.C. and A.D. 33. By multiplying 476 by 365.24219879 days, comes to 173,855 days. This leaves only 25 days to be accounted for between 444 B.C. and A.D. 33. By adding the 25 days to Nisan 1 or March 5 (of 444 B.C.), one comes to March 30 (of A.D. 33) which was Nisan 10 in A.D. 33. This is the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem. . . .
Apparently we know that
Jesus died in 33 A.D.
because Luke 3:1 tells us
that the beginning of John
(the Baptist's) ministry
began in the 15th year of
Tiberius reign. I am not
sure how this is derived
but, but will leave that for
some other time. Jesus's
triumphal entry was on the
10th into Jerusalem. It is
commonly accepted,
though I don't know how to
prove it. 4 days later
is passover which is Friday
of that year when He was
crucified. Christ was
crucified 4 days after Nisan
10, 33 AD - Nisan 14, 33 AD
= passover, Friday (known to
us as April 3, 33 AD). His
triumphal entry was
fulfillment of Zechariah
9:9. The first and only time
He presented Himself as
King. Zec 9:9 Rejoice
greatly, O daughter of Zion;
shout, O daughter of
Jerusalem: behold, thy King
cometh unto thee: he is
just, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding upon an
ass, and upon a colt the
foal of an ass. The
multitude of the disciples
shouted loudly by quoting
from a messianic psalm:
"Blessed is the king who
comes in the name of the
Lord" (Ps. 118:26;
Matt.21:9; Mark 11:10; Luke
19:38; John 12:13).
69 x 7 x 360 (Jewish custom for year) = 173,880 days, which is supported by Daniel time, times, and half a time = 1260 days. 444 BC to 33 AD = 476 solar years... because there is is no year in actuality between 1 B.C. and 0 A.D. 476 x 365.24219879 = 173,855... since 365.24.. is an average solar year. 360 day years x 69 weeks in Daniel = 173,880 days. To reconcile 173,855 to 173,880, the additional 25 day after Nisan 1 can be accounted for by 173,855 + 25 = 173,880 or 483 years, 69 "weeks". Neh 2:1 "And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king, when wine was before him, that I took up the wine, and gave it unto the king. Now I had not been beforetime sad in his presence." In other words ... March 5 (of 444 B.C.), one comes to March 30 (of A.D. 33) which was Nisan 10 in A.D. 33. This is the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem coinciding with March 30th.
When did Jesus die? Tiberius Caesar was born in 42 BC, died at the age of 79 in 37 AD, reigned 23 years, which began in 14 AD. How could Christ have been slain in 29 A.D. at the beginning of John's ministry as some would claim? He couldn't have been. Luk 3:1 "Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,..." My NLT says "Tiberius, the Roman Emperor, ruled from A.D. 14 to 37. Pilate was the Roman governor responsible for the province in Judea; Herod Antipas and Philip were half brothers and sons of the cruel Herod the Great, who had been dead more than 20 years. Antipas, Philip, Pilate, and Lysanias apparently had equal powers governing their separate territories. All were subject to Rome and responsible for keeping peace in their respective lands. From Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 4 .........About this time it was that Philip, Herod's ' brother, departed this life, in the twentieth year of the reign of Tiberius, after he had been tetrarch of Trachonitis and Gaulanitis, and of the nation of the Bataneans also, thirty-seven years. ... This calculation, from all Josephus's Greek copies, is exactly right; for since Herod died about September, in the fourth year before the Christian era, and Tiberius began, as is well known, Aug. 19, A.D. 14, it is evident that the thirty-seventh year of Philip, reckoned from his father's death, was the twentieth of Tiberius, or near the end of A.D. 33, or, however, in the beginning of the next year, A.D. 34. This Philip the tetrarch seems to have been the best of all the posterity of Herod, for his love of peace, and his love of justice.
In Conclusion: The declaration was 444 B.C. (which is really 443 B.C. mathematically speaking), Nisan 1, March 5, and Christ entered Jerusalem exactly 173,880 Biblical days later on March 30th, Nisan 10 which is 25 days later after the now reconciled 173,855 solar days from the date of declaration on Nisan 1, 444 B.C., precisely and mathematically. On the 173,884th day Jesus was cut off on the cross on April 3rd, 33 A.D. on