Differences Between Nee, Lee and Anti-Nees

Differences between 1) Watchman Nee, 2) Copycats for Profit, and 3) the Self-Usurpers

Watchman Nee

1. OSAS Arminianism, free-will made in God's image. Nee said on page 164 of KKH, "The pearl is Christ (this interpretation has persisted from Luther to present), the man is the believer. But how can Christ be bought? How can He be only a pearl of great price among many pearls?" Nee is expressing some negative consequences of Luther's calvinism, that it has a striking resemblance to self-work.
2. Biblical locality based on local churches without a central command and control center by a one man organization.
3. Little Flock, meekness and lowliness and humility. Never sued a soul.
4. No screaming and shouting.
5. Does not keep inventory of people.
6. Believes only living overcomers (Rev. 3.10) and martyred and firsfruits (living and resting) are raptured at 1st rapture.
7. Sabbath Day has passed, now the Lord's Day; warned about legalizers keeping the Sabbath (see Full of Grace and Truth, CFP)
8. Has no particular nomenclature.
9. Watchman Nee would have rejected Witness Lee of what he became.
10. Published two books
11. Kept the Spiritual Man book preserved (CFP) e.g. "desire" one of the 3 aspects of emotion, showing full range of emotion in men.
12. Never believed we were God-men, nor God.
13. Non-modalistic, non-tritheistic. Says God is 3 Persons, not a person.
14. Never said sin is Satan or Satan is sin.

15. Was never recovering any great truths and never making himself out to be authority.

16. Martyred by communist, yet is accused of siding with communists (totally demented accusation).

17. Understood God's decision in creation of authority in submission in the Father and Son and all things necessary for harmony in the new city.

Witness Lee Copycats for Profit

1. Calvinism (complete opposite) "predetermined" for salvation "stacked in the deck", pre-programmed for salvation.
2. Central Hub called The Local Church and Living Stream Ministry (product sales and teachings) to control all local churches.
3. Big Flock, suing airports because they are too noisy and Harvest House for $136 million right now suing the introduction of their encyclopedia having nothing to do with the lsm/lc.
4. Violent Shouters and aggressive screamers.
5. Monitors its members like big brother.
6. Believes everyone in the lsm/lc and all dead overcomers are raptured at 1st rapture.
7. Still keeps the Sabbath day legalized.
8. Has a nomenclature that is unique to the lsm/lc
9. Witness Lee would have not heeded the delegated authority of Watchman Nee.
10. Created a publishing business; invented new W. Nee writings and changed others to fit lsm nomenclature.
11. Changed The Spiritual Man, changed to "hate" one of the three aspects of emotion, hardening and limiting man's emotions.
12. God-men who who will be God.
13. Modalistic, saying God is a person who is 3 Persons.
14. Says sin is Satan and Satan is sin.

15. Recovering great truths and making himself out to be authority.

16. Was not martyred but lived a long and prosperous and financially profitable life.

17. There is no harmony but isolation, frustration, and accusation.

Anti-Nee Self-Usurpers

Often Ex-Leeists, Calvinist or Historicalists

These types will all well say all these things against Witness Lee, but go even further marrying Watchman Nee to Witness Lee, though really not showing how in anyway whatsoever (seems to be a hostility to Chinese), not seeing these differences but blaming Watchman Nee anyhow, misrepresenting reality. The only reason I stand up for Watchman Nee is because I compare the hearts and minds and words of various men and women I hear voice their opinions and compare writings. I must be true to my heart, so these are my conclusions. In your spirit if you have been given the reason received after exhausting all possible explanations, and yet no one gives a valid reason but blames anyway, then it must be the unknown other reason yet undisclosed by process of elimination for there really is no other possible explanation. The people are very hard-nosed, and there is nothing you can do about them or their mentality. Asking them to show even a single proof of their belief in a similarity and they can't show it, but they go on blaming anyway. This is wrong.

Some people that have this condition are characters at the Calvinistic Philipino website such as the owners of the website who marry Nee to Lee and the people there thinking they are helping Leeists too, but simply are lacking just as much discernment as the Leeists. Some of their names I have run across are UntoHim, Roger, and Rick at that site. My conclusion is that most of them are not saved, maybe they have a long history and even wrote God-men or Mindbenders. They are lost in a poisoned spirit of dissension over there on both sides. Each side is trying to usurp themselves, and they are both groups of calvinists. It's ironic, isn't it? My belief is most if not all of them are unsaved. None know true authority in the kingdom of God, and the symphony within the body of Christ, but if any are saved they shall lose rewards, Matthew 7.21. I can find no other explanation. For certainly there should have been reconcilement between these two hostile groups that started as soon as Watchman Nee was imprisoned in the 1950s. 50 years and they are still squabbling. If God were to ask me right here right now, I would have to say that neither of them are saved, but swine in the church, with cloven hooves with appearance of being clean on the outside but really dirty inside not chewing their cud. They are both losers. Both have lost. And that means lake of fire. That is that.

Conclusion

The false-helping self-usurpers in rejecting a most spiritual man of God, Watchman Nee, are actually rejecting God for they attack Watchman Nee and his writings, but I do not see how they can do that since there is no basis, unless they are not saved. Even a fleshly Christian would not do such a thing, for a fleshly Christian may steer from Nee’s writings because they are too spiritual, but they would not attack mindlessly like zombies with no basis. The copycats for profit group of Leeists can not be Christians for the very same reason ironically, except that they reject Watchman Nee’s writings by changing his own words and directly differing on him on MAJOR points. It is as if they have done a 180 on Nee. This double-talk, the Holy Spirit has revealed to me is because of unsalvation. This is not to say 100% of these two groups are not saved, but surely at least a good 95% of them are not saved.

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Sincerely,

Troy Brooks