Daniel Chew Huicong

A Pelagian Heretic has a Meltdown

Read first (recommended) the correspondence with Satan's Pawn, Daniel Chew Huicong.

Below I will post the comment made by the unsaved calvinist, Daniel Chew Huicong, who is as hard as any calvinist I have seen. This is taken from his blog site, both here and here. Let's begin.

The Tares: Basically, I had an email feedback from someone who read an article on my website regarding the difference between the Arminian doctrine of Once saved, always saved (OSAS) and the Calvinistic doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. He wasn't very happy over it, to say the least, and emailed me, leading to a correspondence which lasted two days and only a few posts, but was very long in terms of content, to say the least.

My intention was to help this person so as a Christian that is exactly what I did. I was pleased to do so.

The Tares: I was rather exasperated by the guy Troy Brooks' utter and constant inability to represent me and my position correctly. To put it very nicely, I am fed up with his constant derogatory, judgmental, pharisiatical insults and attitude. His poor English didn't help either.

Daniel calls himself Puritan or Reformed. It's like putting on your license plate the phrase, "IM OK". But what is so pure or reformed about calvinism? He is a pelagian, that is, he denies original sin, since original sin does not lead to total depravity.

The Tares: Anyway, I have managed to see his true colors as he has revealed them during the email exchange. I have shown that he denies original sin and thinks that nobody deserves to go to hell because of their sin. He is therefore a Pelagian heretic (and not a OSAS Arminian as he claims to be). As such, he is not a Christian and is one of the false teachers in this world.

You are not premade for salvation like a robot. He thinks he cannot choose God by the image in which He is made to receive God's saving grace. Total depravity becomes his legalism and idolatry as a pelagian. Since God does not save this way, he is not a Christian and is one of the false teachers in the world. God warns about such false teachers as the "tares" who try to look like the wheat, but God said do not give pearls to the "swine." Therefore, a Christian should not teach this person deeper spiritual truths, but continue to help him with the pride of his calvinism so that he may believe in the only begotten Son of God.

God's way of salvation is osas arminian: free-choice, conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, and preservation of the saints. He has born false witness, claiming that I said nobody deserves to go to hell because of their sin. Of course sin leads to death and the second death which is Hell. Christian do not deny this. He does not believe in preservation of the saints in the way Christians do because the saints are not preprogrammed for salvation to be once-saved-always-saved. Rather, we are made in God's image to have a right to come to the cross, not by the flesh, but as helpless sinners to receive Him as our Lord and Savior.

The Tares: It is my hope that this exchange would be edifying to its readers by showing forth the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and also that heresies and errors as espoused by Troy Brooks be illuminated by the true light of the Gospel and seen as what it is. Also, readers do take note of this false prophet in our midst, and warn others against him and his heresies.

You can see by this time he will try at all costs to defend calvinism come hell or high water.

The Tares: [Oh, and by the way, Troy can also be classified as a hyper-Arminian, since he believes that only people who believe the same as what he claims he believes in (OSAS Arminianism or 4-point Arminianism) are saved and all others are damned.]

I do not believe anyone who is saved must immediately known all the details of osas arminianism. There obviously can be Christians who are deceived yet still saved. There is even calvinists who are saved, but they are not so hardened in their stance which God will work out and deliver them from.

The Tares: So readers, do tell me what do you think of Troy Brooks and/or our exchange.

Daniel Chew (Calvinist) is Gnostic Antinomian

Calvinist: OK, this will be my last post on the Pelagian Gnostic heretic Troy Brooks. He has posted a reply on his heretical website here to the overview of our correspondence posted at my website here as mentioned in my last blog post. In this post, I will show his utter meltdown in utter irratonality and moral, spiritual, epistemological and intellectual bankruptcy.

We have seen how Daniel is a pelagian because he denies the consequence of original sin, thus the original sin itself. He is also a gnostic. The basic tenant of gnosticism is: "The world and our bodies were created by an incompetent lesser god, but we contain a spark of divinity, and Jesus provided us with the knowledge to free it. A calvinist says he is no longer made in God's image after the fall. Because the calvinist tries to kill the image of God, they are indicating they were created by another not God of the Bible. When God created us, we remain in His image forever. A calvinist may appear to be a Christian, but he is not.

Calvinist: Since Troy has shown himself to be a obstinate unregenerate heretic, it is therefore proper for me to apply Scriptural language and condemnation to him, and I will use it in this post. Those of you who may feel that it is too harsh please first read the correspondence, then furthermore note that Jesus call the Pharisees whitewashed tombs (Mt. 23:27), and Paul called the unbelievers fools (Rom. 1:22), which could be legitimately translated as moron as well. Addendum: More concerned readers could perhaps read this article here [about his defense of the prolific use of the terms "moron" and "feces" - obviously not of God].

In his pdf, he calls people morons and feces and explains why he is so harsh, because he thinks he is being gracious by not calling them unsaved, for he says, "I have at least momentarily spared him". Is he sparing people or is he trying to be above God? He admits he would rather insult people ("we have already used the greatest of insults"), then let them know they need to be saved. Yet he is unsaved, unable to discern who is unsaved, for he is without the Holy Spirit to receive revelation from God (1 Cor. 2.13) to know who is saved. How can someone be saved if they already think they are when they are not?

Understand why a calvinist is so harsh. The teaching of "total depravity" produces this callousness and is taught because of their predisposition. They say cannot choose God unless they are first regenerated or unconditionally elected like a robot. Do you really think that glorifies God? Of course not. God is all-knowing. He predestinates by foreknowledge our free-will (Rom. 8.29; John 3.16,18) because He wants to be with those who choose His life by the grace of God. So the calvinist is a pelagian gnostic: denying the reality of original sin and the nature of our Creator, Jesus Christ.

Calvinist: I will now show the utter moral, spiritual and intellectual bankruptcy of Troy Brooks. Not content with letting me post our correspondence without his final input, he has posted his reply and slandered me and asaulted my character, my salvation and my God, the Holy One of Israel. I will not refute him further here but will expose clearly his major errors in basic reasoning, not even doctrine, which make him totally unfit to say anything at all.

He is mad because I don't receive his emails anymore since we have to eventually sweep the dust under our feet. He is not a Christian because he thinks he is premade for salvation, like a robot, and others are not given the opportunity.

Calvinist: Here are the crimes which that moron committed: 1) Straw man argumentation

The fool heretic thinks he knows my position, but he doesn't. Despite constant reminders by me, he insists on telling me what I believe and what I don't. To illustrate this, here is a sample conversation:
Daniel: I believe that this thing is red
Troy: You stupid! This thing is green, not blue.
D: I said that I believe that this thing is red. I didn't say that it was blue!
T: You heretic. Now you will go to hell for your belief that the thing is blue.
etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum.

Only people as stupid as Troy, or those worse than him, can keep on committing this error, over and over again, ad nauseum.

The actual conversation goes like this.

Daniel: I believe that this thing (calvinism) is red (premade for salvation).

Troy: This thing (calvinism) is red (pride). Here is why...

Daniel: You moron. I said that I believe that this is red. I didn't say it was blue!

Troy: I didn't say you said it was blue (undefined).

Calvinist: 2) Redefinition of words

Troy is also in the reprehensible practice of redefining terms. For example, he redefine 'sanctification' to 'consecration', totally ignoring how the terms have been used for the last few centuries. He also redefine 'libertarian free will', also totally ignoring how the term has been used throughout the centuries. Again, here is a simple conversation to aptly illustrate this:

T: I frighten my friend today with an expensive gift for his birthday
D: You mean you surprise him?
T: What are you talking about? I frighten him. You stop surprising me.
D: Surprise you?
T: Yes. I do not fall victim to your surprise.
D: What surprise?
T: What you are trying to do now. Trying to bluff me.

Here, for 'Troy', frighten is redefind to mean surprise and surprise is redefined to mean deception. With such redefinition of words and concepts, it is all but impossible to communicate.

I believe that sanctification is not consecration. Sanctification is being cleansed, made holy and presentable before God at new birth. Consecration is a being separated for God daily by bearing our crosses. At new birth we are sanctified but we are not fully consecrated, for there is much to overcome in the new creation. We first start off as babes in Christ. Sanctification is not consecration. Likewise, predestination is not foreknowledge. Antinomianism is proclaiming substitution but denying consecration through co-death and accountability of the millennial kingdom. He may be adhering to the calvinism heritage with his definitions but this is not Christianity.

Watchman Nee agrees also that sanctification is by faith at new birth (Back to the Cross, pp. 44-45, CFP):

Sanctification is not our own work, it is done by God for us: "Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people through his own blood, suffered without the gate" (Heb. 13.12); again, "for by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified" (Heb. 10.14). Sanctification is a completed fact. We are sanctified because Jesus has died. However, in 1 Peter 1.15 we are commanded: "be ye . . . holy." Why does the apostle say this? Because in spite of the fact that believers are already sanctified, this sanctification is only God’s fact, it is not yet the believer’s life experience. To be sanctified, it is necessary to draw upon the sanctification which the death of Jesus has prepared for us. We must take that sanctification as our sanctification before we can live a holy life.

The matter of overcoming the world follows the same principle. First is the work which Christ has accomplished—the fact of God. Jesus said: "I have overcome the world" (John 16.33). Second is our faith, for God’s word also declares: "this is the victory that hath overcome the world, even our faith" (1 John 5.4). And lastly, we draw on the victory of Christ as our own victory, and so we overcome the world. This third step is our life experience after we have believed. Fact is God’s work; faith is our trust in God’s work; and experience is our having God’s work practically in life.

Yet not only sanctification and victory follow this principle, even all the other major teachings of God’s dealing with men follow it as well.

All God’s facts are the works of God, not the efforts of men. These are not accomplished through the believer’s prayer, work, sacrifice, self-denial or plotting. God’s facts are done by God himself. All of His enterprises are accomplished in Christ. Faith is the only way by which to get to these facts; there is no other way.

Now let us illustrate how far apart from each other are God’s fact and man’s experience. According to God’s fact, the assembly in Corinth was comprised of "them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus" (1 Cor. 1.2). They were the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 6.19), even "washed . . . sanctified . . . justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Cor. 6.11). But so far as their experience, what do we find? "Nay, already it is altogether a defect in you . . . Nay, but ye yourselves do wrong, and defraud" (1 Cor. 6.7,8); "ye sin against Christ" (1 Cor. 8.12). Why was there this state of affairs among them? It was because they had failed to draw upon the grace (fact) that God had provided for them. And hence such failure was theirs. The lofty position we have in fact is not to be experienced in life through our own attempts, diligence, affliction, pretension or effort. To experience the reality of God’s fact for us, we only need to exercise faith to draw on that which the Lord has accomplished for us, taking it as our own. Daily confess what the Lord has done (fact), acknowledge it as truth, and draw it out with true faith. In ordinary times, drawing out means to confess that the work accomplished by Christ is factual and effectual in our life. In times of temptation, however, we must act upon this faith as though we have already possessed what He has given us. And thus shall experience happen in our lives.

Calvinist: 3) Contradictory accusations

In his reply rant, Troy called me a Pelagian. First he called me an unsaved Calvinist; now I am a Pelagian? Wow.... so I am both a non-Calvinist (Pelagian) and a Calvinist at the same time. Give me a break, Troy. You are showing forth your utter stupidity and irrationality. I wonder if that idiot has ever heard of the law of non-contradiction at all. Judging by his irrational rantings and ravings, I doubt his intellectual capacity to be even better than a kid!

Daniel is an unsaved calvinist and pelagian, because pelagianism denies original sin and so does calvinism, because original sin does not lead to total depravity.

Calvinist: In conclusion, I have pointed out the major flaws of basic reasoning in this irrational person. Troy also has poor English which seems to be roughly equivalent to that of a Grade 3 (Primary 3) child or worse, similar to his reasoning skills. To such an idiot and moron, I say just shut your mouth up, otherwise everyone will come to know how stupid you are. Stop your arrogant, pompous, judgmental attitude and I don't need your so-called 'love', which is nothing but hate for whoever you engage. Your pathetic attempts at attacking the doctrines of grace and the doctrine of original sin don't deserve a serious look, when you can't even get your facts right and your reasoning right.

What love is this to claim you are saved, you had no choice in the matter, and others are not saved who had no choice in the matter?

Calvinist: So Troy, carry on your ranting and raving like the moron you are. Perhaps you can convince someone to treat you like a three-year old kid. Oh, one more thing, I doubt if you are in a church anyway, judging by your unteacheable and arrogant attitude. I find it very revealing that his so-called conversion experience is based purely on emotions, and of his experience 'in the Holy Spirit', as if his spirit reaches the third heaven, yet he denounced the Pentecostals/ Charismatics as being heretics, and especially Matt Slick of CARM due to his belief in the present day operation of all the spiritual gifts.

My new birth is given here.

"And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God" (Rev. 21.10). "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven" (2 Cor. 12.2).

Satan accuses, "as if his spirit reaches the third heaven." I do not assume it had. Subsequently within a few months afterwards I had an experience in the Holy Spirit in which I thought my spirit had reached Third Heaven, though I can not be certain. I never wanted it to end, it was so incredible unlike anything I had ever experienced in my life. I prayed for it to last as long as possible, and it lasted a half an hour. I believe God gives us these experiences as a memory of his amazing power and a foretaste of what Heaven will be like so that we keep one eye on Him at all times diligent in our walk in the spirit and the Word. Praise the Lord!

Pentecostalism is wrong because false tongues alters God's Word. This is done by way of confusing the emotion of the soul for the intuition of the spirit by creating mediums and psychics in Pentecostalism. Spiritual gifts exist. Gibberish babble is not a spiritual gift, but generated by self and sometimes a supernatural evil influence. Matt Slick does not accept present day gifts. He alters God's Word (Rev. 22.18,19) to change tongues into gibberish babble.

Calvinist: Notice from his testimony how many I's are there. There are about 14 I's in just two short paragraphs telling of his 'conversion experience'. Talk about self-centeredness. Salvation is all about him - "Me, myself and I"

How strange it would be to talk about your own experience without using the word I. I am seeking after the kingdom.

There is the regeneration of the world (Matt. 19.28). Today we do abiding works in Christ, keeping the conduct of Matthew 5-7. After the millennium is the New City and the New Earth. "In the regeneration" - this word is used twice in the Bible: once in Titus 3.5 where it points to personal recovery, which is being born-again and here in verse 28 where it refers to recovery of the world. The consequence is the millennium-to-come (see Rom 8.19-23 and Is. 11.6-9). From Adam until Moses sin was in the world (Rom. 12.14), and from Moses until the Lord Jesus sin reigned (Rom. 5.12-14,21). All who are born-again are delivered from the power of sin, but not delivered from the presence of sin. Likewise in the regeneration of the world, first comes the deliverance from the power of sin (for Satan is bound for 1000 years - the period of the millennium - which is done by the Lord and not through any social reform done by men), and then shall come the new heaven and the new earth with deliverance from the presence of sin.

Calvinist: For Pelgians like Troy, one wonders if he ever prays to God for the salvation of others. According to his philosophy, he shouldn't, since God is doing all he can to save everyone anyway. This also applies to Arminians, btw. Unles you acknowledge the sovereignty of God in salvation, there is no point whatsoever in praying to God for the salvation of others. Like Troy's pathetic god who just pleads like a beggar for anyone to accept him, and just wranggling his hands because he can do nothing to save those he died for, and in the end, the vast majority goes to hell regardless that their sins are supposedly atoned for by Christ, yet they mst repay the penalty again in hell even though Christ has already paid once for all their sins (so in fact Christ did not atone for their sins, for it is impossible to pay the penalty for sins twice, unless of course, all do go to heaven?).

Dave Hunt addresses this allegation of double payment. When we pray for others they can block our prayers if they are not receptive. We can not penetrate an unsaved calvinist if at the end of the day, being made in God's image, he chooses to refuse it, no matter how convincing a brother or sister is in helping help him. Daniel Chew Huicong angrily said, "God is doing all he can to save everyone"? He sure is! Calvinists deny the sovereignty of God by claiming they were totally deprave, requiring that God unconditionally elect them and save them like a robot before they could have faith. Do you see how they totally forsake the sovereignty of God by rejecting God in making man in His image to have a right to choose the cross?

His anger ensues, "pathetic god who just pleads like a beggar for anyone to accept him, and just wranggling his hands because he can do nothing to save those who he died for, and in the end, the vast majority goes to hell regardless that their sins are supposedly atoned for by Christ". God convinces by the Holy Spirit as I was convinced, for if it was not for His drawing and calling me, I would have never been born again. The god of calvinism impotent and powerless because it can't predestinate by foreknowing our free-choice (Rom. 8.29) to walk with those whom He loves receive His life. Daniel loves the pride of believing he was premade for salvation, a pet teaching to make himself feel special.

Wouldn't it be sad if God didn't provide a general atonement: called universal atonement or unlimited atonement. How said it would be if God was a respecter of all persons (universalism) or respecter of just some persons (limited atonement). Praise the Lord, God is a respecter of no persons (Acts 10.34) which is unlimited atonement.

Christ did atone for the sins of the whole world and all mankind. "It is finished" on the cross. What is meant by Jesus dying for the sins of the whole world is that the authority of the cross has the means to forgive the sin of any man by the precious blood, if only that man comes to the cross as sinner to receive it. Jesus our propitiation, was the perfect sacrifice and substitute.

What was accomplished on the cross will be fulfilled. Jesus will return with power to reign in the millennium.

Love, in Christ,

Troy