Daniel Chew Huicong, "The Tares"

Daniel is Having a Meltdown Because He is a Pelagian Heretic

- Read this first (highly recommended): the correspondence of Satan's Pawn, Daniel Chew Huicong.

The Pelagian Heretic, Daniel Chew Huicong

Troy: Below I will post the comment made by the unsaved calvinist, Daniel Chew Huicong, who is as hard as any calvinist can be. This is taken from his blog site here and here. Let's begin.

The Tares: Basically, I had an email feedback from someone who read an article on my website regarding the difference between the Arminian doctrine of Once saved, always saved (OSAS) and the Calvinistic doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. He wasn't very happy over it, to say the least, and emailed me, leading to a correspondence which lasted two days and only a few posts, but was very long in terms of content, to say the least.

Troy: My intention was to help this person whose errors were most lucid, so as a Christian that is exactly what I did. My happiness is always, so the fact that someone who rejects God's truth, needs to assume that I was not happy is not a humble way to speak, but a wish.

The Tares: I was rather exasperated by the guy Troy Brooks' utter and constant inability to represent me and my position correctly. To put it very nicely, I am fed up with his constant derogatory, judgmental, pharisiatical insults and attitude. His poor English didn't help either.

Troy: Understand that the representation of Daniel Chew is most precise as has been proven time and again. If it was not the case he could show otherwise as well. Remember, he is a full red-blooded calvinist, the epitome of a calvinist. The cover-up or sugar-coated word to describe this mental condition, they like to use is Puritan or Reformed. It is like putting the words on your license plate, "IMOK". This person's attacks of these these things he accuses are just emotional reactions because of his reviling hostility stemming from an untruth in his heart he is not willing to repent of. He accuses of poor English, but doesn't show it, nor does he spell pharisaical properly. His needs an excuse to hold onto this sinful flesh of his, so the reason he doesn't understand his independency from God must be the fault of another or their English, so he hopes. These are typical rationalizations used. Nothing new under the sun. And they are his own sins in fact: judgmental, derogatory, pharisaical, insults and abrasive attitude. His English is poor too. He is also a pelagian (denies original sin) heretic. He is having a meltdown: "I did say that I going to take my exam break. Unfortunately, some things did hapen which took place not at the best time, which leads to this post." He is having some sort of meltdown and projecting himself onto me, hoping that I would have his same meltdown instead of repenting. He doesn't spell so well. All his efforts are to self-exalt himself in his false teaching. From the false writings he has read, he has been deceived to believe in calvinism.

The Tares: Anyway, I have managed to see his true colors as he has revealed them during the email exchange. I have shown that he denies original sin and thinks that nobody deserves to go to hell because of their sin. He is therefore a Pelagian heretic (and not a OSAS Arminian as he claims to be). As such, he is not a Christian and is one of the false teachers in this world.

Troy: Click on Satan's Pawn above to read the email exchange, to see the true colors of The Tares, and what he reveals of himself and what he can't see in the Christian, even after being shown. He has shown that he denies original sin because he thinks original sin means he is totally deprave, a false teaching, which requires that he be premade for salvation like a robot, since he thinks he cannot choose God by the image in which He is made to receive God's saving grace. Total depravity becomes his legalism and idol as a pelagian. As such, since God does not save this way, he is not a Christian and is one of the false teachers in the world. God warns about such false teachers as the "tares" who try to look like the wheat, but God said do not cast pearls onto the "swine," therefore Christian should not teach this person deeper spiritual truths, but continue to help him with the heretical pride of calvinism so that he may believe in the only begotten Son of God, who is the way, the truth and the life. Otherwise, God will bring his sickle to cut him away.

God's way of salvation is osas arminian: free-choice, conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, and preservation of the saints. Incidentally, it should be said, that most Christians who believe in these first four points of arminian also believe in OSAS. He has misread and sins bearing false witness hoping that I think that nobody deserves to go to hell because of their sin, as was shown in the Satan's Pawn piece, but he never responded specifically or apologized for his false accusation. Of course sin leads to death and the second death. No Christian denies that. Remember, the false accuser accuses without justification, but with mindless belligerency. He is just projecting himself, for he is a pelagian heretic, and doesn't really believe in OSAS preservation and perseverance of the saints. This is proven by the fact that the saints are not preprogrammed and premade for salvation to be OSAS, but we are made in God's image to have a right to come to the cross, not by the flesh, as helpless sinners to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior by His saving atonement and grace as He draws us in and calls us by the Holy Spirit.

So far you have seen the accuser accuse with self-declarations alone, because that is all he has to go on from the evil spirit in his spirit.

The Tares: It is my hope that this exchange would be edifying to its readers by showing forth the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and also that heresies and errors as espoused by Troy Brooks be illuminated by the true light of the Gospel and seen as what it is. Also, readers do take note of this false prophet in our midst, and warn others against him and his heresies.

Troy: The hope and agenda of Daniel Chew is to promote his false teaching and heresy known as calvinism, to defend it at all cost even unto hell. May the Lord show me the words to be precise and exactly to express this condition of those who try to look the wheat, but are not. And in so doing, may others not be so deceived, and even lead Daniel Chew to Christ one day to know God's way of salvation is a universal atonement offered to all men and women as a conditional election according to His resistible grace. This requires for him to choose the cross (free-choice), and not think he was premade for salvation like a robot. May this edify readers to know there is great deception in the outward appearance of the kingdom of heaven, for not all in the kingdom of heaven are saved. In fact, most are not. In this appearance are many false prophets such as Daniel Chew Huicong, so may the search engines on the internet point to this page to find out what he really believes.

The Tares: [Oh, and by the way, Troy can also be classified as a hyper-Arminian, since he believes that only people who believe the same as what he claims he believes in (OSAS Arminianism or 4-point Arminianism) are saved and all others are damned.]

Troy: The false accuser is a never-ending false accuser who can not repent from the sin of bearing false witness. If they could, we still await Daniel Chew's repentance from this and the above false accusations. I do not believe all people who are saved need to proclaim OSAS Arminian. It could be intuitively known. And, there obviously can be Christians who are deceived, yet still saved. There is even calvinists who are saved, but they are not so hardened in their stance, which God will work out and deliver them from in time. Surely there is at least one calvinist on the planet who is born-again, because God knows there is at least some doubt there about this false teaching in their hearts from which the Holy Spirit will bring to the surface for repentance.

The Tares: So readers, do tell me what do you think of Troy Brooks and/or our exchange.

Troy: This is how blogs work. A person writes something, and looks for others who agree with him (even his alter ego), other unsaved calvinists, in this instance. These are the games being played by this tare. May God reveal to him a tinge of doubt from his beliefs as he seeks for other men's opinions without knowing for sure by the Holy Spirit the truth.

Daniel Chew Huicong is Having a Calvinist Meltown

Libertarian Free-Will Gnostic Antinomian

The Calvinist: OK, this will be my last post on the Pelagian Gnostic heretic Troy Brooks. He has posted a reply on his heretical website here to the overview of our correspondence posted at my website here as mentioned in my last blog post. In this post, I will show his utter meltdown in utter irratonality and moral, spiritual, epistemological and intellectual bankruptcy.

Troy: Will he keep his promise that this is his last post on his blog about myself, Troy Brooks? We shall see. As we have seen above and in the correspondence, Daniel Chew is a pelagian. In the correspondence, he is shown to be a gnostic also. Why? The basic tenant of gnosticism is: "The world and our bodies were created by an incompetent lesser god, but we contain a spark of divinity, and Jesus provided us with the knowledge to free it. Because the calvinist is essentially trying to kill the image of God, then they think they were created by another, not God of the Bible. The correspondence we had, I allowed Daniel Chew to post on his site, for I knew it would help the body of Christ, and those who want to come to Christ to see the truth by comparison. It provides an excellent venue for everyone to see if a person takes the time to examine this information. He misspelled irrationality, though he is more apt to judge others' spelling, not his own. Follow through this proof this meltdown of the calvinist Daniel Chew to see why he does not love God. He is irrational, immoral, unspiritual, intellectually bankrupt and epistemologically erroneous. Because he does not love God, he is incapable of repenting from these sins. First he needs to repent as a helpless sinner to come to the cross and receive Jesus as his Lord and Savior. Replicatory tares is not salvation. They operate as if they are saved, but they are not. They may even look like us in many ways, but they are not brothers and sisters in Christ.

The Calvinist: Since Troy has shown himself to be a obstinate unregenerate heretic, it is therefore proper for me to apply Scriptural language and condemnation to him, and I will use it in this post. Those of you who may feel that it is too harsh please first read the correspondence, then furthermore note that Jesus call the Pharisees whitewashed tombs (Mt. 23:27), and Paul called the unbelievers fools (Rom. 1:22), which could be legitimately translated as moron as well. Addenum: More concerned readers could perhaps read this article here [about his his defense of the prolific use of the terms "moron" and "feces" - obviously not of God].

Troy: First observe in the addendum that he produces a pdf trying to rationalize why he calls people morons and feces, and why he is so harsh, because he thinks he is being gracious by not calling them unsaved: "I have at least momentarily spared him". Is he sparing people or is he trying to be above God? He admits he would rather insult people ("we have already used the greatest of insults"), then let them know they need to be saved. Yet, he himself is unsaved, unable to discern who is unsaved, for he is without the Holy Spirit to receive revelation from God (1 Cor. 2.13 RSV). He is a moron and he is feces, using his own words, not because I spare him anything, but it is true, he is unsaved. He should know this so that he can be saved. How can one be saved if they are not, and already think they are? God cannot penetrate this pride. This is why he must repent to the cross. Obviously, the real reason is because he is without the love of the Lord, without God's forgiveness and mercy, because he resists His love. I am tempted to sin like the sons of Thunder (John and James), by asking God to bring down hellfire upon Daniel Chew Huicong, but I will not. Thank you Jesus.

Daniel Chew Huicong is an obstinate unregenerate heretic. He accuses me of the same, but has no evidence for such hostility. His false teachings do not constitute the justification for his false teachings. He is an unbelieving fool, a whitewashed tomb; and moron, using his own words. He ought to deal in specifics first as Paul and Jesus did, rather than spout venom first. If you ever come across a calvinist, understand why they are so harsh. They are harsh because their idol is two words, "total depravity". This harsh stance takes their eye off of Christ, and puts it on the false teaching of total depravity to create a legalism and pet teaching. This legalism demands that they cannot choose God unless they are first regenerated or unconditionally elected like a robot. Do you really think that glorifies God? Of course not. God is all-knowing. He predestinates by foreknowledge our free-will (Rom. 8.29; John 3.16,18) because He wants to be with those who choose His life by the grace of God. So the calvinist is a pelagian gnostic: denying the reality of original sin and the nature of our creator, Jesus Christ.

The Calvinist: I will now show the utter moral, spiritual and intellectual bankruptcy of Troy Brooks. Not content with letting me post our correspondence without his final input, he has posted his reply and slandered me and asaulted my character, my salvation and my God, the Holy One of Israel. I will not refute him further here but will expose clearly his major errors in basic reasoning, not even doctrine, which make him totally unfit to say anything at all.

Troy: Let's continue with the utterly immoral, unspiritual and intellectually bankruptcy of Daniel Chew Huicong. Daniel blames me for speaking the truth. He calls it slander while he calls people moron inordinately, and tries to assault the character of God's children by saying we are unsaved, even though I am saved, and he is not. He is mad because I don't receive his emails anymore; but we should sweep the dust under our feet of places that refuse to receive God's truth. He tries to kill the image of God and pridefully thinks he is premade for salvation (not premade for hell like his god says some are), all the while claiming God of the Bible is his god when He is not. He is unfit in doctrine as well as reasoning as has been shown, but let's show it some more! To know this is true, follow along. It is most revealing to see how someone can not repent because they are possessed by a demon of calvinism. Make no mistake about this demon. It is real, and it controls souls.

The Calvinist: Here are the crimes which that moron committed:

1) Straw man argumentation

The fool heretic thinks he knows my position, but he doesn't. Despite constant reminders by me, he insists on telling me what I believe and what I don't. To illustrate this, here is a sample conversation:

Daniel: I believe that this thing is red
Troy: You stupid! This thing is green, not blue.
D: I said that I believe that this thing is red. I didn't say that it was blue!
T: You heretic. Now you will go to hell for your belief that the thing is blue.

etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum.

Only people as stupid as Troy, or those worse than him, can keep on committing this error, over and over again, ad nauseum.

Troy: The heretic, Daniel Chew, keeps self-proclaiming I don't know his position, but he is never able to show it. It has been shown why total depravity is a lie. Have you ever thought to yourself, these men who believe such things are doing it knowing they do not believe in God, but see how they can use calvinism to start a cult? If you poll various cults, you will discover that this calvinism is a prominent teaching for the pride it provides the soul to think they are the special Arian nation, premade for salvation like robots. The robot aspect is to pacify its adherents in combination with the pride of calvinism: this produces an acceptance of immorality and deadens the thought processes under the guise of Christendom. Confusing the fallen nature for a new term, total depravity, not found in the Bible causes this twisted thinking. Such is a fool for Satan. Read through the replies and note carefully, any reminder he provides, he actually never shows he is being misunderstood. He just self-declares from the evil spirit in his spirit.

1) Straw man argumentation. Here is the actual conversation in the Satan's Pawn correspondence:

Daniel: I believe that this thing (calvinism) is red (pride of believing he was premade for salvation like a robot).

Troy: I did not call him "stupid," so he is sinning bearing false witness. I show him why this thing (calvinism) is red (pride). I did not say it was not blue (undefined), nor did I say it was green (undefined), for I was specific. Satan likes to use such undefined vagaries to confuse souls to control them. This is not love.

D: You moron. I said that I believe that this is red. I didn't say it was blue!

T: I didn't say you said it was blue (undefined), for I have been specific with you, and agree with you that you believe it is red (pride). I know that you are not a Christian for the Holy Spirit has revealed it. You are just being belligerent in your vagaries as proven by the fact that you can't disprove your pelagian, calvinism and gnostic teachings.

Yes, this is a crime against the love God, not just against the Church.

The Calvinist: 2) Redefinition of words

Troy is also in the reprehensible practice of redefining terms. For example, he redefine 'sanctification' to 'consecration', totally ignoring how the terms have been used for the last few centuries. He also redefine 'libertarian free will', also totally ignoring how the term has been used throughout the centuries. Again, here is a simple conversation to aptly illustrate this:

T: I frighten my friend today with an expensive gift for his birthday
D: You mean you surprise him?
T: What are you talking about? I frighten him. You stop surprising me.
D: Surprise you?
T: Yes. I do not fall victim to your surprise.
D: What surprise?
T: What you are trying to do now. Trying to bluff me.

Here, for 'Troy', frighten is redefind to mean surprise and surprise is redefined to mean deception.

With such redefinition of words and concepts, it is all but impossible to communicate.

Troy: 2) Redefined words

The unsaved calvinist, Chew, is reprehensible in the practice of redefining words to alter actual meanings and belligerent that he can't see he is under such terms. He hopes that my words are redefining, which is sinning bearing false witness, since they are not redefining, but accurate according to history and God's Word as was proven in the correspondence. I am accused falsely of redefining sanctification to consecration. I never did. My accuser accuses falsely. Since I believe, and said before, that sanctification is not consecration, then I have not redefined these terms, for sanctification is being cleansed to made holy and presentable before God: sanctification by faith in God's grace by the blood of Christ washing away our sins. Consecration is a being separated for God, daily, by bearing our crosses. At new birth we are sanctified as are we justified, but we are not fully consecrated, for there is much to overcome in the new creation, as we first start off as babes in Christ. This is how spiritual Christians have used these terms, thus, Daniel is ignoring spiritual agreement among brothers and sisters in Christ. He sees through the glass darkly in the eyes of the calvinist mistaken assumption of "total depravity," so necessarily he would think sanctification is consecration when it is not. Recall, Daniel accuses me of saying sanctification is consecration, when I showed that it was not, so this means, he does not know the truth of the recovery of sanctification by faith (see item #9), and he doesn't even know what true consecration is daily bearing our crosses and set apart for God: this is the problem with antinomianism, proclaiming substitution, yet rejecting co-death, accountability and rewards for the millennial kingdom.

He is also ignoring libertarian free-will in its usage and how he suffers from this condition. All of this is fully explained in the Satan's Pawn correspondence link above in which Daniel never responds to it in the time we discussed.

I wrote, "Here then we see the libertarian free-will at work in calvinism, for the calvinist with his libertarian free-will assumes about himself that he is premade for salvation like a robot ... OSAS arminians do not believe in libertarian free-will, but that we are made in God's image; our will, by choice, is either in Christ or in Satan. Determinism is the law of cause and effect. Libertarian free-will is against the compatibility of a free-will with determinism. Daniel Chew [Satan's Pawn], you are against determinism for you deny the law of cause and effect by placing the latter before the former which is impossible [like a robot, needing to be regenerated or unconditionally elected before being able to have faith to choose to believe in Christ Jesus]. You believe in libertarian free-will because you do not believe in proper cause and effect in association with a free-will. This is exposed in you when you say you need to be saved first before you can believe, when this cause does not exist in this order except in you imagination because of pride by trying to save yourself by your own strength with this idea which is hostile to God's way of salvation. If you really did not believe you had a libertarian free-will then you would not liberally think you were a robot premade for salvation but would be willing to choose to accept to be under God or Satan. So your position is untenable and pride-filled. You see your lack of humility in proclaiming a false order by thinking you were premade for salvation. In your conscience you can't sense this does not glorify God, for God wants to walk with those who choose His life. Jesus will return to walk on Earth for 1000 years before the New City starts. Many who are calvinists also deny the millennial kingdom. But it takes all kinds. For example, there are spurgeon-types that are post-trib calvinists too [but God's way is partial rapture osas arminian]."

Here is how the conversation went essentially, and note the bearing false witness:

T: I frighten (help) my friend (Daniel the calvinist) today with an expensive gift (Jesus Christ who shows truth of pelagian, antinomianism, gnostic, calvinism libertarian free-will) for his birthday (salvation).

D.You mean you surprise (do not help) him?

T. What are you talking about? I don't frighten (help)? I don't surprise (do not help).

D. Surprise (Do not help) you?

T. Yes. I do not fall victim to your surprise (do not help).

D. What surprise (do not help)?

T. What are you trying to do now? Trying to bluff (belligerent towards) me?

Here for Daniel, we see frighten (help) is being redefined as surprise (do not help) and surprise (do not help) is being redefined to mean bluff me (belligerent towards).

With such redefinition of words and concepts, it is all but impossible to communicate.

Watchman Nee too agrees that sanctification is by faith at new birth (Back to the Cross, pp. 44-45, CFP):

Sanctification is not our own work, it is done by God for us: "Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people through his own blood, suffered without the gate" (Heb. 13.12); again, "for by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified" (Heb. 10.14). Sanctification is a completed fact. We are sanctified because Jesus has died. However, in 1 Peter 1.15 we are commanded: "be ye . . . holy." Why does the apostle say this? Because in spite of the fact that believers are already sanctified, this sanctification is only God’s fact, it is not yet the believer’s life experience. To be sanctified, it is necessary to draw upon the sanctification which the death of Jesus has prepared for us. We must take that sanctification as our sanctification before we can live a holy life.

The matter of overcoming the world follows the same principle. First is the work which Christ has accomplished—the fact of God. Jesus said: "I have overcome the world" (John 16.33). Second is our faith, for God’s word also declares: "this is the victory that hath overcome the world, even our faith" (1 John 5.4). And lastly, we draw on the victory of Christ as our own victory, and so we overcome the world. This third step is our life experience after we have believed. Fact is God’s work; faith is our trust in God’s work; and experience is our having God’s work practically in life.

Yet not only sanctification and victory follow this principle, even all the other major teachings of God’s dealing with men follow it as well.

All God’s facts are the works of God, not the efforts of men. These are not accomplished through the believer’s prayer, work, sacrifice, self-denial or plotting. God’s facts are done by God himself. All of His enterprises are accomplished in Christ. Faith is the only way by which to get to these facts; there is no other way.

Now let us illustrate how far apart from each other are God’s fact and man’s experience. According to God’s fact, the assembly in Corinth was comprised of "them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus" (1 Cor. 1.2). They were the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 6.19), even "washed . . . sanctified . . . justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Cor. 6.11). But so far as their experience, what do we find? "Nay, already it is altogether a defect in you . . . Nay, but ye yourselves do wrong, and defraud" (1 Cor. 6.7,8); "ye sin against Christ" (1 Cor. 8.12). Why was there this state of affairs among them? It was because they had failed to draw upon the grace (fact) that God had provided for them. And hence such failure was theirs. The lofty position we have in fact is not to be experienced in life through our own attempts, diligence, affliction, pretension or effort. To experience the reality of God’s fact for us, we only need to exercise faith to draw on that which the Lord has accomplished for us, taking it as our own. Daily confess what the Lord has done (fact), acknowledge it as truth, and draw it out with true faith. In ordinary times, drawing out means to confess that the work accomplished by Christ is factual and effectual in our life. In times of temptation, however, we must act upon this faith as though we have already possessed what He has given us. And thus shall experience happen in our lives.

The Calvinist: 3) Contradictory accusations

In his reply rant, Troy called me a Pelagian. First he called me an unsaved Calvinist; now I am a Pelagian? Wow.... so I am both a non-Calvinist (Pelagian) and a Calvinist at the same time. Give me a break, Troy. You are showing forth your utter stupidity and irrationality. I wonder if that idiot has ever heard of the law of non-contradiction at all. Judging by his irrational rantings and ravings, I doubt his intellectual capacity to be even better than a kid!

Troy: I do not rant, but am specific. Daniel is ranting, raving and irrational. His intellectual capacity is that of a sinner unsaved. Make no mistake, Daniel Chew Huicong is a bad man who cares not for the salvation of the blood and the cross of Jesus Christ, for he has another agenda. Let me show you how. Daniel is an unsaved calvinist and pelagian. Pelagian is not non-calvinist, for both pelagian and calvinism deny original sin. They have this in common. Pelagian is not non-calvinism, for calvinism rejects original sin by altering the meaning of original sin so it no longer becomes the true meaning of original sin. How treacherous is Satan's deceptions. Using Daniel's own words, it is quite stupid, idiotic, and irrational to say original sin makes one totally deprave (a false teaching) so that he needs to be unconditionally elected and saved before he can have faith. That is like atheists/agnostics saying in quantum mechanics the cause comes after the effect to rationalize there is no God. Salvation never comes before faith. First faith was given by being made in God's image, which can not be dismantled or destroyed or totally deprave. This affords the man the choice to receive grace even though he was fallen. We do not legalize the fall like a bad lawyer would use such unethical legalisms. Obviously such legalism are inordinately rationalistic escaping truth. It is a contradiction to not kill the image of God while claiming man is totally deprave. Either man is totally deprave and the image of God is destroyed, or the image of God is not damaged and man is not totally deprave. You can't have it both ways.

The Calvinist: In conclusion, I have pointed out the major flaws of basic reasoning in this irrational person. Troy also has poor English which seems to be roughly equivalent to that of a Grade 3 (Primary 3) child or worse, similar to his reasoning skills. To such an idiot and moron, I say just shut your mouth up, otherwise everyone will come to know how stupid you are. Stop your arrogant, pompous, judgmental attitude and I don't need your so-called 'love', which is nothing but hate for whoever you engage. Your pathetic attempts at attacking the doctrines of grace and the doctrine of original sin don't deserve a serious look, when you can't even get your facts right and your reasoning right.

Troy: As we have seen the assumptions and errors by Daniel Chew are riff with sins galore, rendering false conclusions and exciting further confusion and deception. His English is no better than that of a 3 year old (Primary) child or worse. When people can't understand spiritual truths, the first thing they do is blame the language itself used because there has to be a reason why they can't accept the truth, so they blame anything including the language of the one who can see their condition. It is quite sad, because all they needed to do was repent; alas, they cannot because they are not saved with the conviction of the Holy Spirit in their spirit. Being not saved, they choose not to repent and exist with this dark cloud over them. They choose to have horrible reasoning skills as we have documented here. Using his own words, projecting his own condition, he is a moron and an idiot. He ought to practice what he preaches: shutting his own mouth otherwise everyone will see how stupid he is. He doesn't realize how true this statement is, for this page will be found by search engines. He is arrogant, pompous, and judgmental. He is also duplicitous, for he makes many false judgments not of God. He does not need the love of God's children. I agree, he does not need our love. He will go his own way, and forsake the body of Christ. This is the independency of Adam at the fall. His hate is great towards the love shown him. This hate naturally stems from the pride of one believing they are premade for salvation like a robot. Robots do not know love, but they sure can get angry. I love everyone, even my enemy, so this is why I tell you the truth, and do not hide it from you. Otherwise you will remain deceived. You may still remain deceived for rejecting the truth, but at least the truth was shown so that you may accept the truth if you choose to come to the cross as a helpless sinner to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior. I agree with the doctrine of grace and original sin, but sadly, Daniel does not, so that is why he accuses Christians of not knowing God's grace and the experience of the fall from grace (original sin). What Daniel spews is irrelevant to the Christian, for this response is for Daniel to help lead him to Christ with the truth. It is also to help others never be deceived by him. This is no guarantee he will ever accept the facts with right reasoning, but it is our responsibility as Christians to tell the truth, and then let those who hath an ear to hear repent. Praise the Lord!

The Calvinist: So Troy, carry on your ranting and raving like the moron you are. Perhaps you can convince someone to treat you like a three-year old kid. Oh, one more thing, I doubt if you are in a church anyway, judging by your unteacheable and arrogant attitude.

Troy: Using the words of Daniel, carry on your rantings and ravings like a moron if you wish, but I guarantee you, you will be held accountable. That is a fact. You may wish someone to be less specific with you as a child would, but I will not. Each step of the way, you will your reviling sin nature that you refuse to let go of in the pride of your thinking you were premade for salvation like a robot. It is understandable that Daniel would need to doubt that I am in the church since he is not a Christian. These are common accusations by the unsaved tares. I am a member of the body of Christ, so obviously I am in the Church. But sad to say given these horrendously false teachings of this particular calvinist in agreement with his arrogant attitude, unteachable spirit, and judging, the Holy Spirit has revealed he was never born-again. And may say also, given probabilities and killing the image of God, even if he has not blasphemed the Holy Spirit, he will likely never come to the cross to receive salvation anyway. Even so, we must still help those who are lost because even one lost soul is a tragedy.

The Calvinist: PS: I find it very revealing that his so-called conversion experience is based purely on emotions, and of his experience 'in the Holy Spirit', as if his spirit reaches the third heaven, yet he denounced the Pentecostals/ Charismatics as being heretics, and especially Matt Slick of CARM due to his belief in the present day operation of all the spiritual gifts.

Troy: The sinner sins bearing false witness. What else can be said about that! My conversion experience was not based purely on emotion, so why sin bearing false witness? My new birth is fully disclosed here. This sinful accusation exposes the accuser? Praise the Lord for the discernment by the Holy Spirit of the false accuser! God the Father and the Son of God gave me the Holy Spirit which dwells in my spirit so that today I no longer walk after the flesh, but through the Word of God is my single eye on Christ by the Spirit.

"And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God" (Rev. 21.10). "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven" (2 Cor. 12.2). May I say that Daniel Chew Huicong sounds jealous that God gave me this most wonderful experience as Paul a similar, and likely deeper experience as did John. My experience pales in comparison to theirs, but I am most grateful for what had happened to me in the Holy Spirit. People who are heady usually don't have such experiences because they still smother their spirit with their soul's rationalizing. There is much Daniel could learn from this statement so that he gives up self and give himself unto God. Satan might say, "as if his spirit reaches the third heaven." I do not assume it had, for what did I say? From then on I was devoted and knew Him. Subsequently, within a few months afterwards, I had an experience in the Holy Spirit in which I thought my spirit had reached Third Heaven, though I can not be certain. I never wanted it to end, it was so incredible unlike anything I had ever experienced in my life. I prayed for it to last as long as possible, and it lasted a half an hour. I believe God gives us these experiences as a memory of his amazing power and a foretaste of what Heaven will be like so that we keep one eye on Him at all times diligent in our walk in the spirit and the Word. Praise the Lord!

Denouncing Pentecostals is not because one is not allowed to have a Third Heaven experience, but because of false tongues, altering God's Word. There is no gibberish babble in the Bible. None can make this case. Charismatics are the 2nd wave movement of gibberish babble. I do not call them heretics as much as I call them deceived on this point. This does not mean all Pentecostals are unsaved, only the vast majority are, since the Holy Spirit could teach to alter the Word about Biblical tongues. False tongues is the working of the Holy Spirit to confuse Biblical tongues so that he may gain entry. This is done by way of confusing the emotion of the soul for the intuition of the spirit by creating mediums and psychics in Pentecostalism. I do tell you the truth. Be not deceived by Pentecostalism. The operation of the spiritual gifts is true. Gibberish babble is not a spiritual gift, but generated by self and sometimes a supernatural evil influence. Matt Slick does not accept present day operation of the gifts properly. but alters God's Word (Rev. 22.18,19) to change tongues to gibberish babble, not of God.

The Calvinist: PPS: Notice from his testimony how many I's are there. There are about 14 I's in just two short paragraphs telling of his 'conversion experience'. Talk about self-centeredness. Salvation is all about him - "Me, myself and I"

Troy: As you can see Daniel Chew is getting desperate with PPS, clinging for straws, in his petty self. We need to be delivered from both the reviling sin nature, the "good self" and the petty self. He is counting the number of "I"'s in my testimony of my new birth experience into the new creation. It is quite difficult to talk about your born-again experience without saying it is "I" who is having this experience. Nothing is mentioned about the fact that it is only two paragraphs and nothing more to take the attention off of me. How strange it would be to talk about your own experience in the third person before God without using the word I to describe the experience, so what I have done is most appropriate and well pleasing to God to give my testimony of how God saves. We all must come through the same door. That is the one common aspect of salvation that is the same for all Christians. None of us were saved by going through another door in which a god would premaking us for salvation like robots on an assembly machine unconditionally, irresistibly and limitedly. That does not reflect a righteous and holy God. Never believe Satan's accusation in the heart of the "tares" who accuse the number of "I"'s you use in giving your testimony of your salvation. They are just jealous. This is utterly evil to make this accusation. New birth is your experience and it is about you, for there is no one else between you and God the Father, God the Son and God the Sprit, so if your experience is not directly happening to you, then your salvation may not be real. New birth is about you, for it is you that needs to be born-again; don't make it about someone else and take your eye off of Christ. Then, a life of overcoming in faith, is a salvation that you must work out with God. After new birth and a life of overcoming, salvation continues on. There is the regeneration of the world (Matt. 19.28). Today we do abiding works in Christ, keeping the conduct of Matthew 5-7. After the millennium is the New City and the New Earth. "In the regeneration" - this word is used twice in the Bible: once in Titus 3.5 where it points to personal recovery, which is being born-again and here in verse 28 where it refers to recovery of the world. The consequence is the millennium-to-come (see Rom 8.19-23 and Is. 11.6-9). From Adam until Moses sin was in the world (Rom. 12.14), and from Moses until the Lord Jesus sin reigned (Rom. 5.12-14,21). All who are born-again are delivered from the power of sin, but not delivered from the presence of sin. Likewise in the regeneration of the world, first comes the deliverance from the power of sin (for Satan is bound for 1000 years - the period of the millennium - which is done by the Lord and not through any social reform done by men), and then shall come the new heaven and the new earth with deliverance from the presence of sin.

What I have learned from this response is that the devil wants you to doubt your salvation. Though you can never lose it, he will try everything possible to cause you to drop in faith to try to mock the Church. Don't underestimate the beguiling treachery of the evil spirit in the heart of men, especially those who are considered by God to be the "tares" who try to look like the wheat. I have said this to let others see the truth about the spiritual realm. Satan is a great accuser, he accuses day and night, but he has nothing on God. Know the selfishness of Daniel Chew Huicong, for he lets his petty self go on a rampage all because he does not want to repent from the pride of believing he was premade for salvation like a robot and not for hell. How could a loving God every premake someone for hell too? Shame on Daniel!

Daniel Chew, the Calvinist: PPPS: For Pelgians like Troy, one wonders if he ever prays to God for the salvation of others. According to his philosophy, he shouldn't, since God is doing all he can to save everyone anyway. This also applies to Arminians, btw. Unles you acknowledge the sovereignty of God in salvation, there is no point whatsoever in praying to God for the salvation of others. Like Troy's pathetic god who just pleads like a beggar for anyone to accept him, and just wranggling his hands because he can do nothing to save those he died for, and in the end, the vast majority goes to hell regardless that their sins are supposedly atoned for by Christ, yet they mst repay the penalty again in hell even though Christ has already paid once for all their sins (so in fact Christ did not atone for their sins, for it is impossible to pay the penalty for sins twice, unless of course, all do go to heaven?).

Troy: As you read this last self-pontification and reviling episode meltdown (yet a third PS), know that the reason when we pray for others they can block our prayers if they are not receptive. We can not penetrate an unsaved calvinist, because at the end of the day, he is made in God's image, and has to choose, no matter how convincing a brother or sister is to help him. Remember, Satan is a great false accuser, so he instills this evil eye in others: "one wonders if he ever prays to God for the salvation of others". There is nothing the evil spirit will not accuse in the unsaved man. I have prayed many times in these posts for the salvation of Daniel Chew, but in his belligerency, he seems to overlook this fact. Pelagians such as Daniel Chew who deny original sin, may pray to people, but it would be a Satanic prayer that God will cut off with the sickle when He returns. Be certain of this! When Jesus returns to reign for 1000 years (Rev. 20.2-7), He will squash such activity by His very words, reigning with an Iron Rod.

The anger towards God is palpable in Daniel Chew, for in his philosophy and hostility, he is actually against God doing all that He can to save us: "God is doing all he can to save everyone anyway," said negatively. We shall know them by their fruit. Because God does all He can to save and give mercy according to His righteousness and holiness, we know God responds to prayers. We can pray to God, and if we fulfill the condition for His working, He will grant our prayers. Some prayers are granted immediately with a future fulfillment. For example, I pray to God for His soon return. This is an accomplished fact, since as a result of this pray, in agreement with the Word, He will return soon. I pray that Daniel will be saved, but because he has a right to resist (resistible grace), being made in God's image, my prayer can be blocked by one who is hostile. So do you see how the evil spirit accuses? He spouts whatever comes out of his mind and the one who is controlled by that spirits spouts it out too carelessly, because at the center of the unsaved man is this evil spirit. Its suggestion to Daniel goes unchecked. Daniel does not consider the possibility that this could even be happening to him. OSAS arminians (free-choice, conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, preservation of the saints) pray to God because God answers prayers. But calvinists prayers are in vain, for there is no point for them to pray due to they are premade for salvation like robots, so they think - so Daniel thinks. Robots just work, they don't pray. They don't have a synergistic and personal relationship with God. Calvinists are notoriously hard-headed even to the point of writing a long pdf about why they should be this way.

I agree with OSAS arminian in all five points: free-choice, conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, preservation of the saints. But my accuser says "this also applies to arminians" as if to suggest I do not agree with the first four points. He gives no reason, it is just an irrelevant mindless accusation of an evil man. There is the sovereignty of God: no one who believes in these five points denies the sovereignty of God. But calvinists deny the sovereignty of God, though not the sovereignty of their god. They deny the sovereignty of God by claiming they were totally deprave, requiring that God unconditionally elect them and save them like a robot before they could have faith: do you see how they totally forsake the sovereignty of God by rejecting God in making man in His image to have a right to choose the cross without God having to unconditionally elect the person and premake him for salvation first? How evil! If there was ever a sign of unsalvation, this is it.

God does not beg, yet the accuser accuses: calling God a "pathetic god who just pleads like a begger for anyone to accept him, and just wranggling his hands because he can do nothing to save those who he died for, and in the end, the vast majority goes to to hell regardless that their sins are supposedly atoned for by Christ". You can see how hostile this unsaved calvinist is and his hatred for God of the Bible. God works with us in affecting salvation: He convinces by the Holy Spirit as I was convinced, for if it was not for His drawing and calling me, I would have never been born again. Only God had the power to do this; no one else could do it. But the god of Chew is a god that is powerless and impotent because it can't predestinate by foreknowing our free-choice (Rom. 8.29) to walk with those whom He loves, who received His life. He wants to be with us whom out of His image came to the cross as helpless sinners to receive His life. We do not surmise that we were premade this way like robots in mental gymnastics to affect salvation. Daniel's soul and spirit are dead to God, needing a regenerated spirit and a renewed mind. He does not love God. He loves the pride of believing he was premade for salvation - it is a pet teaching to make himself feel special. There is no sense in his heart that God wants to walk with those whom He draws and calls by conditional election to choose the cross in His image, not of self. Selfish men prefer a worldly salvation, one where they have to be regenerated first without conscience, then passively they have faith.

God shows us the size of the new city and the new earth because a certain number are saved, which at best we can only approximate. God knows the hearts of men, whom will receive His life and whom will not. The reason why Hell is so large is because God wants to save as a many as He can into the New City and the New Earth after the millennial kingdom. There is no appreciation of this spiritual reality in Chew, "the vast majority goes to hell regardless that their sins are supposedly atoned for by Christ," said negatively against God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit. God offers salvation to all, but not all accept in God's image His salvation because it is their free-will in His image to have the choice, and this gives glory to God to give up this choice. It is an authentic salvation then at new birth, not zombiism. By the way, I think it funny as you go through his countless grammar and spelling mistakes when Chew is so proud of his grammar and spelling. But his spelling is atrocious and so is his grammar is it not? - "vast majority goes to hell". Isn't it "vast majority go to hell"? "Goes" has a single object, not a plural one. I don't pretend to say mine is any better, but what is this word? - "yet they mst repay". We shall know them by their fruit in their judgmental duplicity, not treating others as they would like to be treated. Wouldn't it be sad if God didn't provide a general atonement: called universal atonement or unlimited atonement. How wrong it would be if God was a respecter of all persons (universalism) or He was a respecter of just some persons (limited atonement of premaking robots). Praise the Lord, God is a respecter of no persons (Acts 10.34).

Chew's further hostility is expressed as "yet they mst repay the penalty again in hell even though Christ has already paid once for all their sins". That's correct, because they refused the atonement of Christ. Christ will not atone for someone if they don't want atonement. Does it not seem to readers of Chew's comment, that he is wants either a universalism or annihilation of the soul, so Hell is not an eternal separation and punishment from God in spirit, soul and resurrected body? What are the consequences of this heresy? The consequences are that a person may not really care about salvation, because the worse thing that could happen to him anyway is he would merely cease to exist. Heck, he could blow up 10 cities with nuclear bombs and it wouldn't matter. He could destroy the human race, and it wouldn't matter. Why? Because the worse thing that happens to him is his spirit, soul and body cease to exist. Crazy stuff!

This is the last sentence of Chew's that I am aware of in his hostility and reviling specifically towards a member of the body of Christ: "(so in fact Christ did not atone for their sins, for it is impossible to pay the penalty for sins twice, unless of course, all do go to heaven?)." Here is his false teaching: "all do go to heaven". This is universalism. Christ did atone for the sins of the whole world and all mankind. "It is finished" on the cross. Just like a bad lawyer, Chew is lost in legalism. In Jesus dying for the sins of the whole world, this does not mean that everyone's sins vanish and everyone all of a sudden becomes a robot without sin. That's nonsense. What is meant by Jesus dying for the sins of the whole world is that the authority of the cross has the means to forgive the sin of any man by the precious blood, if only that man comes to the cross as sinner to receive salvation. This is what is mean by Jesus becoming sin as our propitiation - the perfect sacrifice - substitute.

Therefore, what was accomplished on the cross and finished will be fulfilled in the complete redemptive design. This clearly means Jesus will return with power to reign in the millennium. Then, when the millennium ends, all the unsaved will be resurrected to GWT, judged, and cast into perdition, an eternal separation from God. Note, God describes it graphically because He does not want anyone to go there. Whatever it will be like, even so, you still do not want to go there. The punishment there is real, and it flows from the cross for those who did not want to be forgiven by God, they therefore, will remain in their separation from God. They are already separated from God because they have a foretaste of hell already, though they may not be blotted out of the book of life yet, if there is still possibility they can be saved, if they have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Chew has as a foretaste of hell already. He is gnashing his teeth even now, just as he will then. I pray that he may yet be saved, and that he may know the truth about justification by faith and sanctification by faith and being separated for God in consecration. Praise the Lord! Amen.

Love, in Christ,

Troy