Disgusting Facts of Disgusting Minds

Why Do So Many Love the Power Derived from the Sin of Bearing False Witness?

This piece was written to address the errors found here, http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/5662.html?1112060834

13 Facts

1. The Local Church is not the Little Flock, and the Little Flock was never the Local Church. Nee is to the Little Flock as Lee was to the Local Church. Those in the Little Flock today disassociate themselves from anything to do with the Local Church (false Sardis Recovery Church), or in other words the man-made system of lsm/lc by Witness Lee and the Sons of Witness Lee's empire built on modalism, false locality, shouters and suers. 

2. Why is this a cult, this lsm/lc system? Besides the unholy shouting and screaming, the suing for faith, and the jezebel nature (Azuma) in colleges, it lies in their unsalvation. They believe in a god, not God of the Bible. The god of the lsm/lc system is that of modalism saying (Witness Lee quotes) "the Godhead is a Person" or "Father is the Son". This is disrespectful language towards God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, and confusion that the evil spirit utilizes. God is not a "threefold Person" either, a favorite quote of Witness Lee. God IS 3 Persons. How odd it would be to say God or the Godhead is a Person who is 3 Persons. Blasphemy, heresy! 

3. Love Bombing is a tactic of the flesh that is very effective by the evil spirit indwelling modalists in colleges by the Witness Lee cult. Seeking the truth notes, They are a cult and a destructive one at that! They will use what ever means to gain control of your son or daughter! It all starts on the college campus when the lonely student is offered a "Free Meal" or "Instant Friendship" with these love bombing instant new best friends. It's over from there! The Free meal could end up costing you your daughter or son being in your life!! They go by the name of the location of the city the cult church is in. Example: "Church in Portland"... "Church in Tacoma" etc..... Look and see if one exists in your town. If so, stay clear of them. They are BAD NEWS! Love Bombing is the first sign to run for the nearest exit. Cults love to prey on lonely people.

Please note that Biblical locality is true, but central hub locality is false - http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bodyofchrist.htm

4. Arthur Johnson is in error in his Faith Misguided. Watchman Nee was not for Mysticism, which speaks of the emotion of the soul and its manifestations. See The Spiritual Man and the Latent Power of the Soul, CFP white covers only, to see Nee is against mysticism, and for the spirit being strengthened by the Holy Spirit, walking after the spirit. 

5. I read over at Wikipedia Encylopedia the owner of the link of apologeticsindex.org went to jail for 6 months for pedophilia and he admitted his crime in some report; whom attacks Watchman Nee fervently according to the writings there, with for example Richard Fisher’s writing and others. 

6. Read Watching Out for Richard Fisher who wrote Watching Out for Watchman Nee.http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Richard_Fisher.htm What is Richard Fisher defending? Bipartite fallen man, calvinism, exceeding the boundary of Biblical locality; what else? Who knows why he misreads and self-declares so horribly! I have contacted the hardened Richard Fisher, enmeshed in his sinfulness; no means of breaking through the barrier he has set up in his life wih such hostility and bearing false witness. 

7. Dennis McCallum is Perplexed with his own mistaken assumptions, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Dennis_McCallum.htm  

8. Servant authority as presented by Dean and Laura Vandruff attempts to attack Spiritual Authority without citing even a single word in the book. Watchman Nee never used this term, servant authority, even once in his life so we ought not to bear false witness of Watchman Nee. This same article above called Nee a Nicolaitans and that Spiritual Authority was Nee's most popular book, among other derogatory remarks unsubstantiated. The Spiritual Man and The Church and the Work: Rethinking the Work (Vol. 2): these are the only two books Watchman Nee ever published himself. The above writer claims "lording over" is what Watchman Nee is doing, yet does not go into any examples, and accuses Spiritual Authority (which was flawless) also without proof. What lazy accusations!

These are the prideful lazy words of Dean and Laura: The odd, even tragic thing, is that with all of the insightful and godly teachings of Watchman Nee, this book would be his most popular--with its Scripture twisting and direct attack on our Lord's instruction being shamelessly promoted by carnal Christians who "want a 'King' over them", who make it required reading in "discipleship courses", and the like. With what Watchman must now know, he surely must weep.

What twisting? They don't say. What attack? They don't say. Watchman Nee does not teach anything about some uncertain king over Christians, except for Christ Himself. Nothing Watchman Nee writes is required reading, nor are there any courses. Therefore, Dean and Laura are either unregenerated or carnal Christians for bearing false witness profusely. Watchman does not know any more than the day he died, so he would not be weeping awaiting resurrection (in timeless unawares in the good side of Hades); and since he was right, there would be no need to weep according to what he wrote, preserved at CFP. If he had needed to weep, he would weep for the likes of Dean and Laura.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Authority.htm

Nee's own comments on Nicolaitans is this: 2.6 “Nicolaitans” means, in the original, “those who conquer the people”; this then refers to a party that lusts after power and takes upon itself the position of leadership. The Lord hates the works of these people. He commends the Ephesian believers because they are able to hate what He hates. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm

And Nee also wrote, Rev. 2.15 “So hast thou also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner”—Since the period typified was the time when the Roman Empire accepted Christianity as her religion, and since most of the people had no knowledge of Christian truths, naturally the burden of carrying on spiritual things fell on a minority. Class system became a necessity, and soon this system developed into a kind of teaching. 2.16 “Repent therefore, or else I come to thee quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of my mouth”—The sword in verse 12 is the word of the Lord which will cut asunder our relationship with the world. If we hear His admonition but do not repent and sever our relationship with the world, we will be judged by His sword-like word. 

So why accuse Nee of something that he himself agrees with against? Especially, without one iota of proof against Nee's work! I believe the reason for these sins of bearing false witness are several: hatred for the church in locality, it’s independently responsible and the only means of dividing the church upon local ground, not by coporation-style denomination control and pastoral systems; not accepting man is spirit, soul and body; not accepting partial rapture; and not accept osas arminianism; and confusing Watchman Nee (osas arminian trinitarian believer in local churches) for Witness Lee (calvinism modalist believer in central hub lsm/lc locality: another sect), which Witness Lee has done a good job of fooling many.

What these various attackers against Watchman Nee are not telling you is that they are lording their man-made systems over others, whatever denomination, sect, or cult that may be. Watchman Nee sees these various systems exceeding Biblical locality, and that is why Nee is attacked so egregiously.  

9. Like Dennis McCallum being perplexed, and the need to watch out for Richard Fisher, we also need to see Pat Knapp who has taken a Nap regarding spiritual authority. Nee's Spiritual Authority is a most perfect work: http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Pat_Knapp.htm 

10. It is well pointed out that Nee was angry with Lee for writings books as to be Nee's own writings. Seeking Truth comments, That may be so, I really don't know anything much about Nee. It's Lee and his band of cult followers that I worry about. I do know that Nee was mad at Lee for writing books under Nee's name, but trying to pass them off as Lee's own work. I think that was part of the reason Nee gave him the boot. 

11. Judson's article has no concrete facts of discernment, just self-declarations, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Judson.htm. Miles Stanford has the same problem, bizarrely altering the meaning as he goes along - http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Miles_Stanford.htm

Do note the cause of those who misread and misuse Watchman Nee's writings is because of the 5th point here, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Watchman_Nee.htm and spiritual jealousy. 

12. The Filipino Bereans attacks and all relevant responses are provided here, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans.htm. This guy Justyn (Abugain) teaches calvinism pride and tritheism.

13. John Mark Ministries is itself problematic,

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/JohnMark.htm John Mark is out of control.

He authorizes on his site these words in calling Watchman Nee "spiritually abusive"....Watchman Nee has influenced many with his views about hierarchy, rank and subordination: 'Hence you recognize not only the head but also those whom God has set in his body to represent the head. If you are at odds with them, you will be at odds with God.' ('The Body of Christ', NY: Christian Fellowship Publishers, 1978, pp. 20-21) '...Insubordination is rebellion and for this the one under authority must answer to God' ('Spiritual Authority', NY: Christian Fellowship Publishers, 1972, p.71)

Now instead of blindly saying these statements are false let us have a spirit of discernment; let's observe the error in John Mark's Ministry in interpreting the paragraphs surrounding in context what is being said. Should we attack the harmony we have in the church in every petty item treating those with authority disgracefully? No. Now who can deny Watchman Nee's words in context that are very reasonable: 

Submit to Authority (The Body of Christ, CFP, pp. 20-21)

If you really see the body of Christ you are conscious of the loveliness of God’s children, of the error of division, of the need for fellowship, and of the responsibility in you as a member of the body of Christ. All these facets of awareness are because of body consciousness. Moreover, as you are aware that you are in the body, you must become equally aware that you are under the authority of the head. For whoever knows the life of the body of Christ and is conscious of being a body member will invariably sense the authority of the head, who is Christ Jesus the Lord. 

We must not only submit to the direct authority of the head, we need also to submit to the indirect authority of the head. My physical hand is under the direct authority of the head of my body, but when my arm moves, my hand moves together with my arm—for my hand submits to the head through the arm. Consequently, whoever sees the body of Christ sees also the authority which God has set in the body of Christ for him to submit to. 

Sometimes when you are told by someone in the church to do a certain thing, you do not sense it is the Lord’s will for you after you have prayed about it. And so you do not do it, and you feel happy. You know it is right for you to listen to the Lord’s word rather than to man’s word. On the other hand, is there an instance when you become aware that if you do not listen to your brother or sister you come into conflict with the Lord? Is there one time, or even a number of times, wherein you have the sense that one or more of the brethren who know the Lord have been placed by Him in the position of representing His authority and that if you enter into controversy with them you are in controversy with the Lord? If you truly perceive the authority of the head, you will also perceive that one or more members of the body are ahead of you, and that to them you must learn to submit. Hence you recognize not only the head but also those whom God has set in the body to represent the head. If you are at odds with them, you will also be at odds with God. 

If our eyes have been opened by the Lord to recognize the body, we will also recognize authority. When we behold the human body, why is it that all parts work so harmoniously as to reveal the fact that the entire body is one? This is because there is authority in the body. If there is no authority the entire body will be thrown into confusion. Suppose, for example, that the stomach is hungry for food, but that the mouth refuses to eat; what will happen to that man? The entire body will suffer if but one of its parts refuses to obey its authority. Or again, take the example of cancer, which we know is a most serious disease. How does cancer arise in the body? It is due to a few cells which develop themselves independently and not according to the law of the body. The body does not require them to develop in such a way, yet they insist on growing abnormally. They absorb many useful nutrients by which to supply their own growth. They only mind their own development: they do not care if the body does not need such growth: they do not obey the authority of the body but act independently on their own. Now the larger they grow, the more damage the body incurs. With the result that a few insubordinate cells may cause death to the entire body. 

It is clear from the above observations that authority is the law of the human body, and insubordination to it is symptomatic of disease in the body. Equally true will this be in the spiritual body of Christ. If a person does not know what authority is, how can he say he knows the body of Christ? Let us see that the one who knows the body can discern—even when only three or five people are assembled together—who among those assembled is his authority; because there is manifested in their midst the authority of the head to which he needs to submit. How natural and how beautiful it is in the human body for the fingers to submit to the wrist, the wrist to the arm, the arm to the shoulder, and so on. And this same beauty can be displayed in the body of Christ. 

Certain Christians are so careless in action as well as in speech that they will not listen to anyone. They seem to regard themselves as being the greatest to such an extent that they fail to recognize anyone to whom they could submit. This proves that such believers have never known the restraint of the body nor have ever submitted to the authority of the head. May God have mercy on such members. If we have genuinely been dealt with by the Lord and if our flesh has received such dealings as to have had the backbone of the natural life broken, we will immediately acknowledge how neither our hands nor our mouth have unlimited freedom—since all are under the control of the body—and how we cannot fail to submit ourselves to the authority which God has set in the body of Christ. 

May we not remain merely in the realm of teaching on this matter, but be truly led of God to know and to experience the body of Christ. May this body consciousness in its many facets always follow us so that we have no way to do anything according to our own will, or to live carelessly through our days. Thus shall we receive rich supply through this body, and we will be able to manifest the testimony of the Lord. 

Be Fearlessly Subject to Delegated Authority (Spiritual Authority, CFP, p.71)

What a risk God has taken in instituting authorities! What a loss God will incur if the delegated authorities He institutes misrepresent Him! Yet, undaunted, God has set up these authorities. It is much easier for us to fearlessly obey authorities than for God to institute them. Can we not then obey them without apprehension since God Himself has not been afraid to entrust authority to men? Even as God has boldly established authorities, so let us courageously obey them. If anything should be amiss, the fault does not lie with us but with the authorities, for the Lord declares: Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers” (Rom. 13.1).

“Whosoever shall receive this little child in my name receiveth me” (Luke 9.48). For our Lord to represent the Father is no problem. The Father has confidence in Him and calls us to trust Him as we would trust the Father. But in the eyes of the Lord these children also represent Him. He has faith in these children and exhorts us to receive them as we receive Him.

When He sent out His disciples the Lord told them that “he that heareth you heareth me; and he that rejecteth you rejecteth me” (Luke 10.16). Whatever these disciples said or decided was reckoned as representing the Lord. How unafraid the Lord was in delegating His authority to them. He acknowledged every word which they spoke in His name. So that those who rejected them rejected Him. He did not forewarn the disciples not to speak carelessly. He was not at all apprehensive that they might do wrong. He had the faith and boldness to entrust His authority to them.

The Jews, though, were different. They doubted and questioned: “How can this be? How can we be sure that what you say is right? We need time to consider.” They dared not believe and were much afraid.

Let us suppose you are the head of an institution. In sending a representative out, you tell him that you will acknowledge whatever he does according to his best judgment and that people listening to him will be considered as listening to you. Surely you will require him to report to you daily lest he make a mistake. But the Lord makes us representatives plenipotentiary. What confidence He has in us! Can we trust any less when our Lord displays such trust in His delegated authority?

People will perhaps argue, “What if the authority is wrong?” The answer is, If God dares to entrust His authority to men, then we can dare to obey. Whether the one in authority is right or wrong does not concern us, since he has to be responsible directly to God. The obedient needs only to obey; the Lord will not hold us responsible for any mistaken obedience, rather will He hold the delegated authority responsible for his erroneous act. Insubordination, however, is rebellion, and for this the one under authority must answer to God.

It is therefore clear that no human element is involved in this matter of authority. If our subjection is merely directed to a man the whole meaning of authority is lost. When God institutes His delegated authority He is bound by His honor to maintain that authority. We are each one of us responsible before God in this matter. Let us be careful that we make no mistake.