My Leeist Stalker - Lover of Another Christ
Brad V. Sneed from Boise, Idaho works at Givens Pursley and hangs out at the non-Christian site, factnet.org.
He said the Christian "has no grasp whatsover of what it means to become God".
loverofanotherchrist is the apropos nickname given to the one he gives himself, loverofchrist. In good conscience, since he is not a Christian, to call him a lover of Christ would be a sin.
Terminill Revilor (Oliver Fischer) and loverofanotherchrist got me banned at Factnet.org with whatever method they used in their bragging about their scheming false complaints lodged. This is the sin of bearing false witness. Not to worry, their abusive tactics has been handled accordingly. The censored responses to their allegations are found here here.
Discern the lack of ethics of a hardened and entrenched lsm/lc cult member who cares not for this verse: "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you" (Luke 6.31). Watchman Nee (CFP white covers) documents this condition: "Ignorance may be deceived by the powers of darkness" and "may unwittingly tumble into the trap of Satan, and fulfill the conditions for his working. Let us observe the order of this process, for it is highly important: (1) ignorance, (2) deception, (3) passivity, and (4) entrenchment."
What preceded this entrenchment that loverofanotherchrist is under was the many years of deception and passivity in the lsm/lc cult like going into a coma. And the reason the deception came in was because of his overassuming pride and mistaken assumptions near the outset of what would become a life under the bondage of the demon of leeism. This caused his ignorance and error to which he was a willing participant.
Brad (loverofanotherchrist) is a Liar*
loverofanotherchrist has this glaring contradiction. Something doesn't add up. He says his name is Brad, and he says he works at Givens Pursley. He says his name is not Brad Sneed at Givens Pursley, yet the only Brad working there is Brad Sneed. So how can he not be Brad Sneed, yet still work at Givens Pursley? The only three possibilities are:
He lied about working at Givens Pursley when He gave the phone number to Givens Pursley and asked me to call Glenn, that he says is his boss because of his overassuming I wanted to call him (of course, I still never called even once). He said to call his boss, "(208) 388-1200, ask for Glenn" at Givens Pursley (see post #229, "Witness Lee/The Local Church/Shouters" thread); and "Glenn, who was my boss at the time" (post #445, Apr. 21, 2006, "Brad V. Sneed at Givens Pursley" thread). This phone number belongs to Givens Pursley which you can see at their website, http://www.givenspursley.com/contact/contact_frames.asp . Or,
He is Brad Sneed and is lying when he says he is not Brad Sneed: "I am not Brad Sneed" (post #445, April 21, 2006, the "Brad V. Sneed at Givens Pursley" thread in the "Witness Lee/Local Church/Shouters" at Factnet.org). Or,
His first name is not Brad at all and he is also lying about (1) since his name would not be Brad which he said I am suppose to call Glenn about.
Either way, he is a liar of the lsm/lc cult. Let this be a proof that loverofanotherchrist is a liar with no apparent sense of guilt or remorse.
* From Brad's public IP address at Factnet.org it points to Givens Pursley. I had no idea he worked there until he told me. I had no idea Givens Pursley located in Boise was also the town of where Brad's outlet of the lsm/lc cult was until he told me. I still have no idea where Brad lives, nor can that information be found easily from an IP address. Moreover, it doesn't interest me as it interests him where I live by his posting my address and phone number on the internet several times as well as using my full name, while never giving out his own. This is the sin of treating others not as you would like to be treated, all the while him accusing me of these things which I have not done. I would like to say that he labels many accusations that are incredibly unethical. I suppose if one were a bad lawyer, this is how they have learned to behave. Have you ever come across someone like that before where they say lies and after lies in such a premeditated and slanderous fashion?
I would like to give one example of these tactics in my past experiences so you can relate to the type of person Brad is. These experiences are very similar and show you the unethical workings of men of the world. I am not quite sure how they sleep at night. I was good at a particular sport. One day I was playing a player that was also good, but I was winning and there was some dispute about the score. I thought I was right, but whether I was right or wrong about the score gave no cause for what happened next. My confidence sparked his retaliation as I was sure about what transpired. I was physically attacked. Many people were there and witnessed it. Some said I should have pressed for legal action. I did not. But what happened next was most disturbing, which is similar to the intuitive sense you get from hearing Brad's behavior. I began to hear from others that I was calling this person's house and threatening his children (no mention of his wife of course as she could never stoop so low). Obviously, this is absurd, especially considering there was no motivation to do such a thing. This person has a history of low morals and aggressive behavior, not unlike Brad. To recall a little more about this incident, while my attacker was on top of me, he said hit him. He was much larger than me, I was on my back, and there is no way I would do that as I like to keep my pretty face. First I was blindsided from the back and next thing you knew he was on top of me asking me to hit him. What a coward! The same cowardice exists in Brad in that not only does he try to blindside you with false accusations and slander, but he threatens don't do it again OR ELSE, as if I had done it in the first place. I consider Brad very evil and not born-again, not the least of which are his major sins of leeism false teachings. I am grateful to God that He would not give the Holy Spirit to Brad.
The Stalker
loverofanotherchrist, an lsm/lc cult member, first began stalking me (Troy Brooks) in 2004. I had a forum, and I banned this person from my forum for reviling and plain old belligerency. That was concluded in 2004.
In 2005, I find myself on factnet.org. The Lord led me here to give some helpful words to the cause of exposing the lsm/lc cult. My very first post on this forum was "Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 12:46 am" in which I give the truth of various mistaken assumptions surrounding the attempts at marrying Watchman Nee to the unregenerate Witness Lee.
Guess who shows up out of nowhere? loverofanotherchrist shows up with this IP address - 216.222.103.246 - and his first post was "Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:05 pm". Granted, it took him a little over 3 months to find me.
"Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 11:54 pm" I note something, "216.222.103.246 This is your IP loverofself. I just checked to see on the off chance if I had banned your IP in the past, and I have. Wow! On my forum [at the time "Christianity Forums"], though I do not know who you are specifically, I do know that you have come onto my forum, and I had to ban you because of your bad behavior. Now I can see, my estimate of you is in fact truly verified, and more importantly for others, that may be viewing they can see your concealment."
The Unrepentant Liar
The reason this was an important discernment about loverofanotherchrist was because of what he himself said, "I assure you, we have never had previous discourse. I only looked at your website". Of course, I do not ban people for no reason at all. He is a liar in more ways than one, reflecting his cult's mentality for the greater cause of the cult's false teachings: 6 major sins of leeism and false locality.
Through all the posts up to this point, I sensed an intense reviling for me from loverofanotherchrist as evident in his words for all to see. I have never met such an inner hatred before in another person, but then I recalled someone that I had banned on my forum perhaps six months prior in 2004. I was not sure. I went to check the banned list on my newly formed forum, which gives their IP addresses. I counted the order of bannings, and it turned out that loverofanotherchrist's IP address (216.222.103.246) was the 7th IP on the list, which means, he was the 7th person I had banned on the first forum I ever owned. It was at that moment I knew. These were the first nastiest people I had to ban, and loverofanotherchrist was one of them. All I had was a hunch, and that hunch turned out to be correct. It turns out this was the protection of the Holy Spirit. loverofanotherchrist lied to me when he said, "I assure you, we have never had previous discourse". He thought he had fooled me in his craftiness.
The Doubletongued - Like A Serpent
After hundreds of posts, his attacks ensued. The common theme in all of them is that he deflects and circumvents by all possible means the 6 major sins of leeism. Anytime a leeist tries to tackle these sins of theirs they do it in this fashion: for example, they do say they are God, but not God. Be "not doubletongued" (Rom. 8.29). Obviously, this is inconsiderate and selfish, does not allow for a discussion of them, and bespeaks of one possessed by something, whatever that demon is that has control on the souls of the lsm/lc cult adherents as they isolate themselves in these 6 major sins. Surely, they are deceived by their considering themselves the will of their god. Rationalizing first mistaken assumptions is what creates this doubletalking.
"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise (Luke 6.31). "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets" (Matt. 7.12). His conscience does not speak to him that this is wrong. What we are doing is building a case of proving God's very Word, that we shall know them by their fruit: "For every tree is known by his own fruit" (Luke 6.44). Not everyone is a Christian just because they say they are.
In addition to being dishonest and rarely dealing with the matter at hand of the sins of leeism, he would always speak to me in my name, but never giving his own; this is not treating others as he would like to be treated, very one-sided, a double-standard. Christians never approach another like this so uneven-handed. I do not do this, nor do I make a demand contrary to the way I act with regard to his nickname or name.
Broken Promises
Further evidence the mind of loverofanotherchrist knows his behavior is wrong is that he had promised not to do it again. A new IP registrant in 2006 who was pretentiously asking for help could be loverofanotherchrist since there is a habit of him of using multiple user names (see below), which was more appropriately nicknamed terminill revilor. He also makes the exact same promise, but then breaks it too. Not only did he promise to use the nickname "churchwork" but also promises to not use my full name. He turns right around and gives me a new nickname as well as speaks to me in my full name. Obviously, whether or not this is the same person (the stalker), we are dealing with the same evil conscience that knows it is wrong what they do, but they do it anyway and not just one time, but literally hundreds of times. Otherwise, they (or he) would not have made these promises in the first place if they (he) had not thought what they were doing wrong.
These broken promises problems are also seen in that approximately 6 times loverofanotherchrist said he would never return to factnet.org to speak to me again, emotionally reacting and not in control of himself. The truth hurts, especially when you don't want to repent. This emotional outburst is evident by the fact that when he returned it was either under false pretence or unapologetically as though the promise never even existed. Blocking out of our minds the truth is a selfish thing. You just can't trust a leeist. You get exactly what you deserve if you deem their promises worthy of consideration.
Lying About Broken Promises
Loverofanotherchrist is a liar. He will lie straight to your face without conscience. This is what he does for a living. This is what it means to be a leeist for the sake of the lsm/lc cult and to self-exalt himself in arrogant pride. In his hopes that enough time has gone by, he posts, “Wrong. Not once did I ever write that I would never return here” (post #335, April 17, 2006 in the “How to keeps one’s word” thread). He writes this in response to my saying, "you promised you would never return." He conveniently forgets his broken promise: “I will not be returning to read your response. I've already deleted this website's URL from my bookmarks. Have a great life!” (post #179, July 8, 2005 in the "The Local Church Witness Lee. CULTS IN USA” thread). He posted the same thing in several threads too. He has never repented of this obviously.
Again, he broke his promise, “I've decided to finally leave you alone” (post #180, July 8, 2005 in the “Witness Lee/Local Church/Shouters” thread). In the same thread, he returned July 17, 2005 with his next post and continued posting, responding to my posts. I noted on July 20, 2005 in post #356 in the same thread, “You're back. That didn't last very long your promise to leave. So much for keeping your word.” Throughout the threads I have reminded him of this, as have others, but never can he repent because his ego is puffed up.
He even makes up one lame excuse why he returned: he said he was banned. These are merely attempts at being cunning and misdirection. The broken promises continued: “so I'm just going to let him have the last one here. He's no longer worthy of my time” (post #265, Nov. 29, 2005 in the “How sin begets sin in the hardened loverofanotherchrist” thread). If I am not worthy of his time why then does he keep breaking this promise. When one at first practices to deceive…! Of course, I am not about to leaf through every time he can’t keep his word, but you get the point. It is not even so bad that he returns, but that he lies about saying he never said he would not return. A leopard can't change his spots.
He will attempt to try this method of deceit in other ways also, claiming something was not said. Then, I quote that it was said, and he is exposed for lying again and trying to sin bearing false witness like his father Witness Lee and his real father, Satan.
The Petty Self Out Of Control
When his lying about these promises that he broke was shown to him (in the above section), he responds with his unethical petty self, by saying he never said the word "promise". To which I replied, You don't have to say the word Promise to make a promise. These are the low moral maneuverings of a leeist.
The Bad and Unethical Lawyer
The same bad character trait of obstinacy continued scores of times. This selfish conduct that is not Christ-like would be mentioned to him over and over for each time he committed the sin. He would never respond to his double-standard. This is not how my brothers and sisters in Christ act. He is really acting like a bad lawyer (more than you know - see below), to misdirect away from repentance of his sin. In my 23rd post, I noted, "You sound like a bad lawyer" in response to his endlessly unloving accusations. Remember, it is his cult that is driving his actions and not Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit.
The Vendetta
loverofanotherchrist, began other disclosures by mentioning he has found me out on other forums, naming them one by one. I became more and more concerned about his stalking and thought him to be dangerous, noting in post #21, "You seem to spend much time observing my comings and goings. You seem like you may be obsessed with me. Why is that? What is it that I have shown you that you can not let go of in your flesh?" For example, his stalking took him to search out somehow my address and phone number on the internet and even provided a map to my house (see his post #184 on July 8, 2005). He actually did this more than once. Can you sense the evil in this behavior? He publicly disclosed it for no reason at all other than his hared, causing him to react emotionally, not being in control of himself. He wanted to hurt me. He failed.
I could list many other petty efforts to find fault with me that loverofanotherchrist failed at. Suffice it to say, they are his efforts at trying to break the Ten Commandments: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against" (Ex. 20.16; see Deut. 19.16, Prov. 19.5, Matt. 26.59, Luke 18.20). Make note, I have not sought to scan the internet about loverofanotherchrist, nor do I care to do so either, even though I could have, given what he has told me about himself (see below). My concern is for the greater good of helping people not fall into the lsm/lc cult.
The reason he is, with Satan, the "accuser of our brethren" (Rev. 12.10) is because there is no one else on the internet more threatening to his belief system, given the information on my website, particularly the "Misreading Nee" page.
Failing to Do His Job
As time progressed, we are are brought to the month of November, 2005. We discover some very revealing things. He has been posting his obsession of me at and from his employer's office - Givens Pursley (a law firm) in Boise that he admits to, which is not something one should be doing at the workplace, especially considering the amount of time he was obsessing over me, taking away from work that he should have been doing. Jesus spoke about this wasteful conduct which can lead to more troubles, even death: "And he answering saith unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: and if it bear fruit thenceforth, [well]; but if not, thou shalt cut it down" (Luke 13.8,9). Here the man did the work that saved the fig tree that the vineyard owner was careless with, which is the work that loverofanotherchrist was suppose to be doing at his workplace, rather than stalking me and rationalizing his cult from his office computer. If he was not under their false teachings, he would not have to waste his time in rationalizing himself as sin begets sin. I am sure his employer would not take kindly to this if he knew. The reason this is known is because his IP address resolves to this website given, which is common knowledge that anyone can look up.
The Outlet in Boise
Up to this point, after hundreds of posts, loverofanotherchrist continued not to treat others as he would like to be treated or said another way, treating others NOT as he would like to be treated. He was too embarrassed to give his lsm/lc outlet or his name, but he had no problem posting the names of others on the internet and giving out detailed information about them. Realize this is the fruit of the lsm/lc cult and loverofanotherchrist who is possessed by the demon of leeism, that same spirit that controlled the unregenerate Witness Lee.
If others are curious to know who this lsm/lc cult member is, you may find out, though I am not interested, since it doesn't interest me to do so. loverofanotherchrist, as far as I am concerned, is just another lsm/lc cult member, possessed under the 6 major sins of leeism. Regarding his lsm/lc outlet in Boise (which he did not disclose, but was FIRST discernmened by his workplace locale attached to his IP address, but long after he had been posting maps, phone numbers and addresses about me), he said (posing as UnRegenerated, in post #9 with the same IP address, 216.222.103.246), "As far as the church in Boise is concerned they will not reprimand me". The Boise lsm/lc website gives this email address - churchinboise@qwest.net. The other two IP addresses that are recorded in his postings are 67.41.43.134 and 63.227.247.106. I don't intend to keep track.
Odd Request - A Blessing in Disguise
Regarding his employment, for some odd reason he actually said to call his employer, "(208) 388-1200, ask for Glenn" at Givens Pursley (see post #229, "Witness Lee/The Local Church/Shouters" thread). I have continually asked him why he wanted me to call his employer and ask for Glenn, but true to form, he never responds, as obstinate as can be, which does not make for much discourse, but just a one-sided oddity. I trust you are getting the picture of how absolutely belligerent this person is and that you simply don't see this kind of behavior in saved souls; certainly not to this degree. We shall know them by their fruit (Luke 6.44). He says
Since I was concerned for his hatred escalating in his obsession towards me, I thought it wise to take him up on his offer. Instead of calling his employer and asking for Glenn at his request, because I saw no Glenn in the directory for this company, I sent an email asking about this person, loverofanotherchrist, using the only information I had to go on: that he was a member of the lsm/lc cult in Boise, giving his postings at factnet.org to help figure it out who it is I am being directed to speak to, and if there was even a Glenn there to speak to at all.
We are trying to establish the truthfulness of loverofanotherchrist's claims in him saying these things. I have received no reply to date. What is important is that these references are preserved for the future in the case that loverofanotherchrist becomes more aggressive and dangerous as such records in the history books of this cult indicate, including suicides even. We have a place to direct the local authorities in Boise to find him out if need be. He no doubt would be suspect #1.
Note another act of duplicity by loverofanotherchrist: after he asked me to call his employer to "ask for Glenn", he subsequently denies it, even though it is preserved in post #229 and #257.
Writings Altered
Other oddities of loverofanotherchrist are in his misreading of The Ministry of God's Word which was was fully proven to have been altered by his cult. This only touches the surface of the alteration of Nee's writings. We have only compared so far a few pages of The Spiritual Man and The Ministry of God's Word.
Generational Deception
I am concerned for this person's children whom he says he has: "I have a wife and three children - and one on the way" (post #158). It is very sad they will be indoctrinated into the lsm/lc cult. Though loverofanotherchrist is lost, it is a very tragic tale to see him do damage to impressionable souls, even his own children. This is not love. This may be the worse part of it. Let us pray this disease does not affect his children, by loverofanotherchrist coming to the cross as a helpless sinner to receive Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
The Destructions of the LSM/LC Cult
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, He will return to destroy this vile cult that controls and binds its members through the 6 major sins of leeism: 1) violent repetitive mantra, 2) suing Christians for their faith (e.g. $136 million, but they lost), 3) pride of believing they were premade for salvation like robots (calvinism), 4) modalism (confusing God's 3 Persons and calling the Godhead a Person), 5) calling themselves God (this happens when you confuse God's 3 Persons and think the Godhead is a Person), and 6) bearing false witness (e.g. altering Watchman Nee's writings (be sure to only read Nee from CFP, the white covers, and CLC).
Seeking the World's Foremost Cult
Also refuse their false locality by a central hub of filthy lucre (not of God), now controlled by the physical birth children of the unregenerate Witness Lee! All these problems stem from exalting the lsm/lc cult above Jesus Christ, even in place of Him. Witness Lee was an unregenerate, totally devoid of repentance! Many times you read messages on the internet about how angry he got and slammed the door on people when certain discerning questions were asked about him. This is not love, but a man's profit center not making as much money as he would have liked in his grand plan for the world's foremost cult.
What Else is There to Say?
Even though much more can be said, it is really not necessary, for we see the essence of the Satan trying to replicate the Church in these false teachings and bad behaviors of the lsm/lc cult adherent. The Bible warns us not to continue to help those who Blaspheme the Holy Spirit. And even if they have not blasphemed, still kick the dust under your feet as you leave their place. Praise the Lord, I have never even gone to a single lsm/lc gather, but for those that have, after reading this proof, it is time you walk away from their beguiling, if you love God. Do not cast pearls unto the swine. We should do not even consider them to be the unsaved tares who try to look like the saved wheat. They are, in fact, outside the sphere of the kingdom of heaven and unsaved. I have never met a more arrogant and pompous people! Even to call themselves God!
In Summary
In summary, lets go through the steps of how sin begets sin in the actions and beliefs of loverofanotherchrist: 1) dishonesty, hostility and reviling against God's children; which leads to 2) the selfishness and self-servingness of pontificating and self-declaration, sinning bearing false witness and constant barrage of accusations against those not in his cult; which leads to 3) God rising up others that discern the sins of his (loverofanotherchrist's) cult; which leads to 4) further attacks and threats of (and actual) legal action against those not in this cult; which leads to 5) an ongoing list of sins promulgated such as noted in this article; which leads to 6) not treating others as loverofanotherchrist would like to be treated (e.g. the double-standard, double-talk, and obstinacy); which leads to 7) an increase in oddities such as oddly enough, asking me to call his workplace; which leads to 8) losing his job all because of his double-standard that has morphed into oddities; which leads to 9) further threats of legal actions, all because he is an lsm/lc cult member possessed by the demon of leeism. You can see why the only solution is for Christ to return and destroy them, since they will never repent in a body of lies. Are the chain of these events, in their cause and effects, the righteousness of God? Is this the love of the Lord? I pray not!
Praise the Lord for this discernment!
Love in Christ,
Troy