We shall know them by their fruit - "For every tree is known by his own fruit" (Luke 6.44). Be "not doubletongued" (1 Tim. 3.8). "Thou shalt not bear false witness against" (Ex. 20.16; see Deut. 19.16, Prov. 19.5, Matt. 26.59, Luke 18.20). "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you" (Luke 6.31).
The Local Church Discussion Forum -- Test a Leeist
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I think
it is important we stick to the 6 major teachings of The Local Church, so
we can hold those in Lee camp accountable instead of continually letting
them off the hook by their not addressing these problems (i.e. always
skirting around the facts): calvinism (pride in believing in being
premade for salvation), suing for faith, modalism (saying the Father is
the Son and the Godhead is a Person), altering Watchman Nee's writings
(e.g. limiting affection to love and desire only to hate in their LSM TSM),
calling oneself God (in any way shape or form), and violent screaming
mantra (which is neither prayer nor reading to yell 2 or 3 words
aggressively). |
A deceiving steward, who runs a leeist forum for leeists, wrote, "It is really important that we speak up and tell people that the ministry of Witness Lee is the best, because Brother Lee has never deviated from the Word of God." Is this not idolatry? For no man has never not erred.
Witness 6 Sins Leeism
First Sin
Calvinism pride of believing in being premade for salvation like a robot. All five teachings of calvinism are false. Osas arminian, which agrees with God's way of salvation, can easily expose the "stacking the deck" puffiness in calvinism. I have spoken to over a dozen leeists, and they always defend calvinism in some form or another, yet all 5 points of calvinism are false. Take for example this incident with a leeist. Refuse such calvinistic teaching. Watchman Nee was osas arminian as you well know. Leeist are often found saying along the lines they have up leveled from Watchman Nee. If so, why does the Holy Spirit stop me to show me diabolical opposites?
Second Sin
Violent screaming and brainwashing mantra in repetitions to control its cult members so that they do not think for themselves; confusing emotion for the spirit, living in the soulical and not walking after the spirit. Listen to audios and watch the videos if you must, but I don't recommend it for it is quite unholy. This prayer-reading is neither prayer nor reading. 2 or 3 words chanted over is not reading and God has never asked me to pray this way. Watchman Nee, of course, disagreed with such antics as being artificial and forced. Nee had things to say about repetitive screaming as artificial behavior.
Third Sin
Suing Christians for their faith by attacking "one of the least of these my brethren" (Matt. 25.40) to put him into bankruptcy, shutting down his or her ministry financially and even going so far as to threaten me. These are a few of the suing attempts. More detailed explanations of each incident are given on the Misreading Nee page. Appealing to Caesar does not mean suing Christians for their faith, for Paul did not even sue those who did him wrong so that nothing could be held against him. Since the Lord Jesus was humiliated on earth, can we seek to glory by suing for faith? Since Jesus was crucified as a robber, can we court the favor of the world? Since Jesus was slandered possessed of a demon, can we look to the praise of men and the courts that we are most clever and rational? Such conditions would reveal the inconsistency of having a relationship with the Lord. "If any man would after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me" (Matt. 16.24). Imagine if Jesus sued Harvest House for $136,000,000 in such filthy lucre? I believe with all my heart and soul and spirit that leeists are truly lost in the world, clinging tightly to it and do seem to refuse the principle that "the world hath been crucified unto me, and I unto the world" (Gal. 6.14).
Fourth Sin
Modalism is one of their favorite teachings. Oh, they love the doublespeak! Leeists do teach modalism, no matter how much they say they don't believe it. It is in actuality denying the Trinity of God's 3 Persons as distinct in the Triune Godhead. It is a special pride teaching by thinking "God is a threefold Person" and the "Father is the Son" (these are quotes of Witness Lee). The Godhead is not a Person. The Godhead does not have folds or modes. The 1st Person is not the 2nd Person. How absurd to say the Godhead is a Person of 3 Persons to confuse the meaning of Persons in the Trinity. This is confusing the meaning of what God's 3 Persons are and debasing the Godhead down to man's interpretation. They can't understand how the Father is not the Son and how God's 3 Persons are not a Person. In the Godhead what is the point of saying there are 3 Persons, only then to say the 1st Person is the 2nd Person and mentioning of 4th Person to these 3 Persons! Satan is the author of confusion. Please do not speak of the Father as being the Son. What is the point of saying the Trinity is 3 Persons; then, in doublespeak, saying the Triune God is a Person? The Godhead is not a quaternity of 4 Persons. Let such pet teachings unproven in the Scriptures die on the cross. This is disrespectful to God's Word. Leeists also say that they are God. But a leeist is just a person. Could it be that what this cult is trying to say is that since a leeist is a person who calls himself God, claims the Godhead is a Person and that they are a person of God, they must be God too? The warped confusion prevails. These two ideas of modalism and theosis are being used together, yet have long since been considered a heresy to the Church. The rallies around modalism (albeit simultaneously denying it) by leeists have never been able to reasonably explain those quotes of Witness Lee which is the same usage used by leeists for decades even to this day.
With regard to 2 Cor. 3.17, "Now the Lord is that Spirit," the emphasis here is on the word "Now," for the Lord has risen to the right hand of the Father and has given His Spirit to indwell as the veil is now rent. Never be so overassuming as to think this means the Lord is the Spirit, the prime teaching of modalists. Misreading the Scriptures is not a humble position to take at all. Considering all the Scripture that keeps the Son and the Spirit distinct (and we can find no verses making them same), there should be no excuse for priding oneself on the special teaching of modalism, all the while in doublespeak saying they are not modalist. The infamy of the doubletongue by leeists truly excites the flesh. As the doubletongue is given energy, sin begets sin, and you will see more doubletalk in future episodes.
In Witness Lee modalism, does it feel like those in the dark are leading gullible souls down a path of destruction? No matter how hard they and Witness Lee try marry Witness Lee to Watchman Nee by altering the latter's writings, creating new writings and by other means, Nee and the little flock had no affiliation with them later on. If Nee was released from prison, his chastisement would be palpable against Witness Lee. For example, Nee said, "Always remember that God has committed Christ, the Holy Spirit, the word, and the light to the church. Today she is able to give light, word, the Holy Spirit, and Christ to men. The one difficulty is our uncleanness, our impurity" (The Ministry of God's Word, p. 243, CFP white covers). Christ and the Holy Spirit are spoken of separately which are also distinct from God the Father in the Godhead. Jesus Christ is the 2nd Person of the Godhead. The 3rd Person is the Holy Spirit which is God's life. The Holy Spirit is the life of the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit has eternal life. The life of the Godhead is eternal. The reason men will confuse God's simple explanation of His 3 Persons is because of "uncleanness, our impurity". Recall John 14.16, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever." If there is another comforter besides Jesus, then they are not the same-Jesus is not the Spirit. Read verse 17-20 to see the different use of words "him" and "I".
The heresy of modalism is given by a false witness ("christianmomof3"). I am saddened for her three children because she will teach them the same as she believes.
Fifth Sin
Calling themselves God. For example, Ron Kangas, a false teacher and leading lsm'er, says he is God. Never call yourself God ever! Christians are not God in life, nature or grace. Christians have God's life eternal, His nature and grace. We have His indwelling Holy Spirit also. Witness Lee is not the Acting God, nor was Paul.
Sixth Sin
Bearing false witness against Watchman Nee's writings, altering his writings and creating new writings said to be his that are not. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against" (luke 6.31). The end result is to alter man's tripartite nature, even though they themselves may claim man has three parts. For example, one of the 3 major aspects of emotion is not "hate", but that is what Witness Lee believed by altering Nee's writings to say this. Watchman Nee never said hate was one of the 3 main aspects of emotion at CFP which is not related to the lsm/lc cult! Watchman Nee said clearly in agreement with the rest of The Spiritual Man (see the proof) that the 3 major aspects of emotion are (1) affection, (2) desire, and (3) sensing and feeling. These 3 aspects also have their very own 3 separate chapters too, even naming those chapters by name. There are no "Hate" chapters. Ridiculous! How are you ever going to escape this cult if you are unwilling to address these things by being intellectually honest with yourself? I did not write this article in vain!
Why limit the emotions of affection to love only? Why limit the emotion of desire to hate only? Why use an odd term, "affected" to replace our sensing and feeling?
How evil is your life and your organization, run and operated by Witness Lee's physical birth children who were not directly commissioned by God. See "Bearing False Witness of the Spiritual Man". Careful comparison reveals a very strange spirit mistranslating and adding what was not in the original, even upwards of 30% more text. There are various other alterations, such as John Pester's altering first rapture, and Ministry of God's Word.
Central Hub for Filthy Lucre
There is also a misconception that the lsm/lc cult operates according to
Biblical locality. They don't even have apostles. Instead, they operate under false locality by
a central hub for filthy lucre (to distribute lsm products), thus,
not abiding in
Biblical locality. This is easily seen from
different perspectives, not the least of which, when the lsm organization sues
someone, often times, many of the outlets of lsm get involved in the suing
process together as though they are one large corporation-a board of directors
at the center with its boutiques, but not apostles directly commissioned by God.
Biblical locality, instead, has apostles directly commissioned by God and are in
agreement!
How is this problem solved in the Church? There should be a Meeting Place Finder for the body of Christ on the Internet in which apostles show their solidarity on basic principles, doctrine and teaching. But our selling products from this center is unacceptable! With a clear conscience, we would prefer no one to blame us for such behavior! A Meeting Place Finder needs to fulfill the role of a questionnaire by informal apostles so the Church can know we are in unity on various matters and so the Church can have confidence we were directly commissioned by God for the Work. That is all the Meeting Place Finder is for and should be allowed to do!
In this way, each locality maintains its independency, and we confidently know the Elders of a locality were chosen authentically by Apostles for a region of churches.
Not Even Born-Again
Some may come forth to say they reject these false teachings, yet they still can't leave the lsm/lc. This is an indication they are still controlled by the demon of leeism. Only when they are finally able to walk away, are they free, and even they much deliverance may be needed. It is possible that the reason they can't walk away is because they are in it just for the social experience and are not even born-again.
The Little Flock Refused The Local Church
Watchman Nee was of the little flock who reject even to this day the lsm/lc cult. Stephen Kaung said "Witness Lee went too far," and others like T. Austin Sparks and Angus Kinnear obviously rejected Witness Lee's corrupted false locality and some of his doctrinal errors. Watchman Nee could not say anything about this cult of Witness Lee because it began after Watchman Nee was imprisoned for life. Many try to take Watchman Nee as agreeing with them. Some other cults misuse his writings as well, not just the lsm/lc cult. Nee's writings at CFP expose their misreadings and alterations. Nee's accusers such as Richard Fisher, Dana Roberts and quite a few others who try to desperately marry Nee to Lee are also easily exposed.
Complete Opposites
Watchman Nee was osas arminian (non-calvinist), non-suer, trinitarian (non-modalist),
non-screamer, held to Biblical locality
(non-central hub locality), and did not bear false witness of history and
others' writings as did the mind of the unsaved soul of Witness Lee.
The authority for Watchman Nee's writings are at Christian Fellowship Publishers
(which are the white covers) called the "Complete Works of Watchman Nee".
They are not the "Collected Works of Watchman Nee" at lsm. Living Stream
Ministry is notorious for creating new products every year or so said to be of
Nee's. Comparing same source work, it is undeniable that the lsm/lc takes
liberties which are as much as 30% longer in translation.
After all this time still producing new writings said to be of Watchman
Nee from lsm for filthy lucre! Enough already! We get it already. You
are looking for profits to build your lsm/lc organization. In order to do this, you
need to build your product base and increase your distribution outlets. Such
cults fashion themselves after corporations! And corporations, 200 years ago,
came into being from the written codes by the Roman Church and Protestant
denominations which all exhibit the pastoral system. Yet none
of these is how Biblical locality works according to the Scriptures.
What Do You Do Now?
You can find the link to CFP ("The Complete Works") from the
W. Nee website.
I almost made the mistake of ordering from lsm when I was first introduced to
Nee's writings, so be careful! I wouldn't want
you to regret it after it is too late! To protect yourself
so as not to be deceived, read the
5 Deeper Truths. If you would like to fellowship
well pleasing to the Lord, please
join Biblocality
Forums, or if you would like to discuss these matters, there is the Local Church
discussion forum.
Be sure to visit
Misreading Nee for additional proofs which
really are just extensions of the 6 major sins of leeism. These sins are held
close to the bosom of The Local Church, and they won't give them up!
Conclusion - An Unholy Trinity
These findings are a summary of the conversations with lsm/lc members and from reading their writings. The Holy Spirit reveals there is demon possession involved which is the same demon that owned Witness Lee, its founder, to control him and create this entity called The Local Church.
The character this demonic force takes on is that of always deflecting away from these 6 major sins of leeism, never confronting them honestly and openly. There is always some excuse! The vague redirections and accusing others to skirt around the issue are their false fruit. Therefore, their sins remain no matter what kind of measures they take to thwart. Some time after Watchman Nee was imprisoned for life, Witness Lee began to hatch his plans for his cult, unfettered from Nee's authority in the Church as an Apostle. The Holy Spirit has clearly revealed to me in no uncertain terms Witness Lee was used by the supernatural forces of evil to make Watchman Nee look goofy by false association so that these 5 deeper truths remain verily rejected and cause some to think Nee believed in Lee's teachings.
What is Satan's aim here? It seems the Church has suffered because Of Witness Lee causing careless or gullible souls to misconstrue Lee's beliefs for Nee's. I for one know of no ones writings deeper and more closely aligned with the Word like a glove than that of Watchman Nee (CFP & CLC). Therefore, we may reasonably conclude Satan wants to delay the Church returning to her first love of Biblical locality as long as possible. I think Satan knows he can't win, so all he can do is delay and delay. When the Tribulation starts the Bible says Satan knows his time short. Satan is the great Restrainer who up to now has withheld his Antichrist and False Prophet. When I think of the unholy trinity of Witness Lee, Living Stream Ministry and The Local Church, I recall what Jack Sparks said in Mindbenders, that the cults he covered in that book were fairly impotent, but The Local Church has potential to be incredibly evil, though time will tell. Satan's replication is he was and is not and is to come. Witness Lee was, is not, and some great leader in Living Stream Ministry and The Local Church will soon be upon the world.
It has been 50+ years now and still no repentance from these 6 major sins of leeism has been forthcoming. Ask yourselves, do you think they will ever repent? Not likely. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ will return to destroy this organization-a little harlot.
Love, in Christ,
Troy