My Experience with So-Called Christian Forums

The false teachings of the religious systems of Satan in the church are given here. Within these various forums described there are hidden forums wherein they talk amongst themselves according to their controlling ideology. There is a solution to this problem called Biblical locality which is a return to the first century love that was lost.

Introduction

The owners are involved in one or more of these false teachings: (1) calvinism pride of believing in being premade for salvation like a robot; (2) historicalism, that is, no millennial peace and rewards (i.e., return with Christ to reign on earth); (3) non-OSAS (can lose eternal life after new birth), that is, not trusting God has infinite foreknowledge to give eternal life eternally at new birth; (4) false tongues (confuse your emotion for your spirit to cause passivity); (5) holding false creation views (i.e., not accepting the restoration gap); (6) bipartite fallen man view (not accepting  that man is spirit, soul and body); (7) adding books to the 66 books of God's Word; (8) mistreating women, disallowing women from being apostles and elders; and (9) rejecting Biblical locality from the first century.

What is wrong with raptureready.com? It’s owner has made lots of money overassuming believers will all be raptured at first rapture, having nothing to do with readiness to lower your standards into their control for product sales.

Quite worldly, they all deny Biblical locality (apostles commissioned by God to appoint elders of a locality), the first love in Rev. 2 that was lost. In other words, these forums mentioned sanction a hierarchial structure in the church exceeding the 3 main categories of works: (1) Apostles for a region, (2) Elders (Bishops) of a locality, and (3) Elders of meeting places.

What is the solution? (1) osas arminian (free-choice made in God's image); (2) partial rapture (first rapture according to readiness); (3) tongues are languages (non-passivity not confusing the emotion of the soul for the intuition of the spirit); (4) Biblical locality (the unit of the Church as a miniature of the new city); (5) God's Word is the 66 books (through the redemptive design God is separate the marriage of Satan whose number is 6 from man whose number is 6; (6) there was women apostles in the Bible, and today, women have rights in the administration of the church as elders; (7) gap restoration at Gen. 1.2; (8) man is spirit, soul and body (Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23); and (9) once-saved-always-saved which agrees with (1).

Simple eh? Not so, for why are you still on a forum (if you are on one of these forums) belonging to religious Rome? Do you feel deceived? You should, for you have been. There is a forum in Christ that has been designed to help deliver you from these false teachings of their owners who know not what they do. Please try not to forget it, for it is our future presence for the Church on the internet and to aid in meeting places using the Meeting Place Finder for the Body of Christ at Biblocality Christian Forums.

Kick the dust under your feet as you leave a place that will not accept these truths, then you will stop casting pearls unto swine. "Whose soever sins ye forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained" (John 20.23). It is a sin to alter God's Word. We shall know them by their fruit. Through borrowed forgiveness from God, the forgiveness of the Church, we can not acknowledge they are Christians or not if God reveals it to us. They may be, but in good conscience we can not say convincingly they are in the body of Christ unless God approves by the Spirit in agreement with the Word.

* Exhibit an extremely high percentage of historicalists and non-OSAS teaching similar to the RCC (christianforums.com in particular has mostly RCC members on its administration). Bibledatabase requires you to post 10 posts and be a member for 7 days before you can send private messages.

** Same organization through mergers and acquisitions, and they hold no fear in telling you straight out they are a for profit organization for filthy lucre, using the name of Christ in the Salem Network of companies. This would not be the Church, for the Church is a little flock, meek, lowly and sojourners. An inordinate number of historicalists (amillennialism) and non-OSASers are controlling this system, though they profess to be Protestant. There are a number of protestant denominations that have similar characteristics to the RCC in this regard. It is my belief that they read your private messages, and the reason for this belief is founded on this fact: I would join and send only one or two private messages to one or two persons discussing the false teachings of this organization to some members, then they ban me as though the administrators had read the private messages. If I don't send private messages and don't post, my account remains. This violation of privacy does not happen on other forums, at least to this extent, that I am aware of. They are behaving just as a corporation might behave, very controlling around certain false teachings. This is not to say that others of differing beliefs are not allowed on their forums, but as soon as you speak firmly and accurately the truth in the Word that exposes them either openly on the forums or in private messages, then you are martyred on the Internet. This is the power of religious Rome (Rev. 14.8; 17).

*** The owner is an historicalist, calvinist and teaches gibberish babble of Pentecostalism (revived montanism). VBulletin has add-ons now that falsify the activity of a forum in various different ways. This forum owner likes to make his forum seem busier than it really is by increasing the time allotted for the number of members online.

"And I have faced danger from men [false brothers] who claim to be Christians but are not" (2 Cor. 11.26). They are false brothers.

Major Hurdles

As you read below you will see we are up against a mountain of serious errors (pet teachings) in carnal forums in Christendom. Why do they ban? Because you don't fall in line with their preconceived ideas of how they have always been taught when you speak up against their beliefs. The major reasons for their banning is to defend these heresies:

1) The owner of Christianforums.com, the largest of these forums on the Internet, is most egregious, sneaky and coy in his not disclosing openly what he really believes and by possessing a double tongue. This forum owner is attempting to slither in his man made ideas through his administrators into your heart underhandedly by censoring out Christians who can see his double tongue. The double tongue is as follows: Erwin Loh (a) lowers his own conscience and condones the lowering of your conscience by promoting the popularity of  multi-denominational ecumenicalism, while (b) contradicting himself by claiming it is alright to divide the body of Christ with his "I am of Christ" (1 Cor. 1.12) non-denominational view, against Paul's teaching, which puffs up self. And, we know what the majority of the 19 Administrators in control of the largest Christendom forum on the Internet really believe which are the teachings of the Roman Church, because they say they belong to the Roman Church. The Roman Church has quite often made decisions that promote ecumenicalism, even though those various beliefs contradict one another. We shall know them by their fruit. And we know that in Christendom, there are the unsaved tares that try to look like the saved wheat. This forum conflicts itself with three false teachings: promoting (a) non-denoms, (b) denoms and (b) multi-denoms. Sounds couth, but it will fail as untruths tend to fall away.

2) As much as 90% of these forums below are into the calvinism pride. This is the false teaching of total depravity, replacing and legalizing the meaning of "fallen man", which leads to the other 4 false teachings of calvinism; thereby rejecting God's way which osas arminian adheres to. This calvinism system hides behind the word "Reformed," but it is nothing of the sort. Some will try to get wise with you and accept parts of calvinism while accepting parts of osas arminian (e.g. Baptists), but all 5 points of calvinism contradict all 5 points of osas arminian.

3) Censoring-out continues in favor of historicalistic views and post-trib onlyism which is hardening hearts and taking away the hope of the church of being received according to readiness (Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36) at first rapture Historicalism denies rewards of the millennium-to-come. Historicalism includes all its various kinds which refuse God's premillennial period is now. There are some pre-trib onlyist forums (e.g. Raptureready.com) that are a big problem too overassuming their first rapture not according to readiness which will cause many to take the mark of beast, not realizing it in the Tribulation when they enter it.

4) False tongues pentecostalism (revived montanism) is also a hidden passivity and false teaching that people will try to get you into, by not initially being upfront about it. Many can testify to this underhandedness.

There are 3 kinds of forums: (1) small forums (a little flock similar to Biblocality Forums) that are spiritual or they are fleshly; (2) medium size forums that are carnal (I have found no spiritual medium-sized forums), and (3) large forums that are carnal Christendom. Realize that the only spiritual forums that you should seek out are the small forums that are spiritual, since your flesh will be led astray on all medium and large forums; as well as small fleshly forums. I have observed over 5000 forums in Christendom (documenting them) and these have been mind findings.

What I Have Learned about Forums

What I have learned about forums? People on religious internet forums, not the least of which are the so-called Christian forums, don't engage discussion to learn and grow because they don't trust others anyway, but instead participate to exalt their views, worship God by their flesh and have already decided upon a matter to try them out on others. They aren't changing their own views, you can be sure of that. If you are a Christian who has some truth you want to share, do not expect to be received well (nay, expect to be banned and reviled). As so-called Christians retaliate repeatedly, then don't waste your time with them. Find another forum that is less brutal. They do not listen anyway to the truth. To find people who agree on these 12 simple facts and remaining blameless is like looking for a needle in haystack. Why waste your time? Did Jesus waste his time? No. He moved on. He planted seeds and moved on, not engaging the spirit of dissension. He only gave what could be received; any more would have gotten Him killed a lot sooner. He needed those 3 years to show us how to live, before His atoning sacrifice.

What is the solution to this problem? What is the best way to participating in so-called Christian forums? Assuming you have the truth in your heart regarding certain matters, how can you remain not banned? It is not possible, because you need to speak up for Christ, and when you do that, there is backlash against us brothers and sisters from the tares (unsaved) in the kingdom of heaven that try to look like the wheat (Matt. 13). There is no common ground on unspiritual Christendom forums, not even in Christ since many say they believe, but really, they do not, preferring their pet untruths. Your posts will be moved, removed, and closed, each and every time, after your view is fully known by the moderators. They will glory in their rationalizations or coyness. They are getting better and better at finding us out. All you did was agree with God's word. You will be targeted and silenced by those in control, so my BEST advice is don't even bother with Christendom forums. It is all a farce. But if you feel a calling in your spirit by God to tell the truth on forums, the best that you can do is apply yourself subtlety and circulate through the forums, so that, after several years, come back to that particular forum again with a new email, nickname and IP address (you can use proxies too which generate a new IP address). The moderators may have changed in a few years, but the moderators will still be of the same ilk, except that they won't recall you personally. The forum systems have extensive notes kept on IP addresses, emails and similar nicknames so you need to be exceedingly careful. Give as little information about yourself as possible, because they use that information to figure out who you are to recall who they banned before. Don't even give out the link to your website where the forum asks for it. Don't post on your personal webpage they give you because they are doing this to analyze your information whether or not ban you. Only give out your website personally by email instead of using their private message system for their forum. Selectively, give out your website to those you speak to privately whom you find agreement with.

After a couple months to a year, your IP may be removed by then, as they upgrade their database and make changes, dropping older archived banning records. You will get banned. However, you can last somewhat longer by slowly bringing in the truth you want them to see. This is the work of a Christian in planting seeds. When you give people the truth of their mistaken assumptions, you will be their pin cushion, and they will self-proclaim all kinds of vague accusations unsubstantiated, but do not fret. Because we are sojourning Christians, these attacks are expected upon us from religious Rome. They will say you are acting like God or judging their salvation, when you are not. Though you may have been shown by God some that are not saved, in no way are you judging their salvation for man can condemn no one to perdition. This is God's job alone. The list is seemingly endless of the things they come up with. Their purpose is to redirect blame onto the Christian who speaks the truth so that the errors mentioned are not repented from in their hearts. They are usually defending their denominational system, dividing the body of Christ falsely. Remember, the body of Christ is never divided denominationally, but according to Biblical locality. This is not to say every one of them is unsaved for there are carnal Christians too that will throw a tantrum. These forum owners or their moderators (hand picked), are just lashing out and dredging up lame excuses, because they know you can see their false teachings. It is a form of martyrdom on the net, when they silence you through banning. However, my advice is just stay away from all of them, since these various groups participate in forums to rationalize themselves, not really caring for others or seeking for the truth. It is quite unruly; not of God. When you do try to lead their owners and moderators to the truth, the effective way to approach them is to repeat what they need to hear after they have had a chance to cool off. After they have torn up the scroll (that is, banning and deleting posts) of valuable information you have supplied them, return again with a new scroll (so they don't realize it is you) with even more information, but in bits and pieces, so it is not so overwhelming.

Some forum owners will try to deceive you to get you disclose information about yourself, "One thing the Apostles in the Bible always were was Bold NOT subtle" in order to find you out and ban you right away. Don't trust them, but realize Jesus Christ spoke in parables so those that could not understand, would not; as well as, to cause people to think without immediately blaming Jesus. Each denomination thinks a certain way not of God. Also, know that Jesus ran away from many situations before it was His time to go to the cross, and He did so Boldly. Brothers and sisters, do not be too quick give everything away to these false teachers, forum owners and moderators, or they will martyr you before God's appointed time, by banning you and silencing God's word that you have to share. Simply and slowly bring in the truth. This is the only way to help others on their forums to receive the help they TRULY need. Be bold for Christ, but do not jump in the fire by giving into such demands by forum owners to so-called boldly give up the information they need to martyr you. They will accuse you of acting like God, while they sit on their pedestals, usually prideful, often thinking they were pre-made for salvation: calvinists. Make no mistake! They will call you every reviling name in the book. They will s-t-a-l-k you and search far and wide on the Internet to find the goods on you. They will contact your internet service provider. They will self-declare anything, anything at all, in very self-centered fashion. This is a form of martyrdom on the internet today. This is how the world and the tares in the kingdom of heaven operate, but it is not the church. Praise God for that! They are without the humility of the Lord, for they are the MODERATORS and FORUM OWNERS! The Holy Spirit has thus lead me to create a Christian forum that is in agreement by apostles.

Argumentative

The "natural" state of a Christian is to respond with the "principle of amen." Not so with many forum moderators and owners. God's people should be easily able to contact one another, for we live and should be living in our approach to others. Not so with many forum moderators and owners. They are in fact very hidden and shut-in within themselves, so much so that others can not say much in their controlling their forum categories which is centered around their particular false belief. They don't really fellowship with anyone. They are severed from the fellowship of the Body in practice. Not only do they hide their real state, but their depth is very lacking, forbidding their spirit from being touched. Their spirit is closed. In the world, coyness may be the way, but for Christians we need to be open so that we can fellowship with others. Such forum owners/moderators behave so erratically and full of rationalization, pretentiously and sanctimoniously-feigning piety because there is something you believe that they can not conceive as they hold onto their untruth that blocks their view. Find out what that untruth is, and there is your answer why they are so hostile to you. This is why a Christian forum is need that has agreement by the apostles directly commissioned by God so these problems are averted.

Christendom forum owners are not ready for the truth. For example, 99.9% of the world is not ready for partial rapture. Only so many receive the reward of the millennial kingdom. Only so many are saved. The moderator who has the power to ban you will cling to his pet doctrine, and when you expose it, expect to be banned. Today, moderators and forum owners ban you when you give the truth about one of the four major alterations of Scripture that they pride themselves on: (1) pentecostalism which is false tongues, (2) calvinism stacking the deck, (3) rejecting partial rapture, and  (4) rejecting tripartite man. It seems that no matter where you go, no matter whom you meet, in all probability the person who says he is a Christian will alter the Word of God at least on one of these four points; often times on all four. There are even others who believe in non-OSAS who have no faith to trust in God to eternally save at new birth, saying they can lose their salvation tomorrow or even later that same day. What an impotent god that would be!

As this phenomena permeates so-called Christian forums, it is the same virtually everywhere, except there is a little more accountability in what one says when there is a person of flesh and blood standing across from you. You get to know what a persons thinks within one response on the forums. People are more cordial in person so it takes a little longer to find out what someone really things. If you are truly praying in the spirit and are a true believer, you never need to replace your spirit for the copout of false babble, believe that God premakes men for hell, hold various end-time views that reflect your personality type (instead of God's partial rapture), or maintain man in his fallen state as a bipartite confused soul in not knowing what is of your spirit and what is of your soul.

So-called Christian forums are created for the sole purpose of defending some particular view, and banning anyone that disagrees with them for too long which is a few dozen posts. All I have really learned in discussions with people on the internet is how shallow people are, how poor their reasoning is, how unsaved they really are, how much they don't care to learn, how set in their ways they are for good, and the endurance of how self-centered, self-exalting and self-rationalizing they can be. That is why there is a heaven and hell, for eventually the conversation gets cut off. The message of this lesson for me at least is that it is like a big pyramid scheme, and the people at the bottom of the pyramid in Christendom are those on website forums who love to argue (Laodicean) and show how they think they have the truth. The reality is they are mostly unregenerates. Nothing wrong with discussion, but to defend an untruth so ardently is a sure road to hell for it merely reflects their pretentiousness.

I have never met any spiritual people on Christian boards. Spiritual fellowship is not found on these scores of so-called Christian forums. There is no accountability or consideration, and if you want to fellowship with them you have to put up with all these other views that are so clearly wrong, and then try to find agreement which you know is eternally incompatible. It is an impossible task. Like the Bible says, there is not even one that is righteous. You sure get a sense of how hopeless these forums are. I don't ever recall receiving some spiritual truth, valuable insight or excellent Word of God from someone on a discussion forum. What is all too common is the deception of these major false teachings. What happened to all the normal Christians? I can't find them anywhere. I, then, realized the church has always been abnormal-full of carnal Christians. But, there are a few spiritual Christians today in the world who are considered in God's mind normal; diamonds in the rough, what the church ought to be. These are the overcomers that will receive the reward of reigning during millennial kingdom.

Fellowship in your locality where you live, and read the Word, but don't ever expect to find a spiritual Christian forum in one of the big forums, because the reason they got so big to begin with was because they were unspiritual by appealing to the flesh, telling people exactly what people wanted to hear. That is the way of the world. People are there to argue. I have never seen so many so-called Christians who think they are saved; they are not. If Jesus were to return today, the place He would communicate His message would be the internet, perhaps even a forum, but not any of these forums. Someone would ask Him a question, and He would speak forth perfectly from the Scriptures, in the most precisely spiritual way possible. And the world would listen, hanging on his every word in the millennium. I would love to see Him speak forth when He arrives on the mount of olives, and say throughout the world with POWER something such as this, "Pentecostals, I told you not to engage in mediums and psychics. Calvinists, I am not a killer of free-will and I did not premake you for salvation. Historicalists, I am here now in the millennium, and the Great Tribulation ended the age of grace, but you claimed the millennium and the Great Tribulation had already occurred; you discovered you were wrong, now what will you do? Bipartite fallen men, don't you know the spirit is not your soul? Those of you who were so sure of yourselves that you would be raptured at the first rapture OR those of you who were convinced you had to go through the Tribulation, where did I ever say any such things? I DON'T KNOW YOU." Where are they? In outer darkness: loss of rewards for the saints.

Unspiritual Christian Forums

If a forum is not mentioned below, it is not necessarily excluded. Some of these forums no longer exist. Praise the Lord!

Underneath it all, these unspiritual forums are controlled by their owners, each holding onto some untruth(s). Their common elements is that they are all involved in certain beliefs that are very overbearing in their respective views which is a natural consequence of believing an untruth.

Many forums are not what they seem. For example, Q & A Heavenly Calling Network are classic modalists, thinking the Father is the Son and denying the Trinity: 3 Persons of the Godhead.

Baptistboard which runs Baptist Top1000 or Christian Top1000 are immediately hostile to separate rapture. They also legalize baptism making it a requirement like the borg, saying "we shall assimilate you" through required baptismal regeneration, i.e, demanding water burial. But baptism-burial and resurrection-should never be so legalized to make a big fat cult out of it since baptism experientially is with or without water. We should never divide the body on a false doctrine, for the only basis of proper division is locality. The true meaning of baptism and correct usage is revealed by the Holy Spirit.

Furthermore, this forum sets as a good example of how posts get moved around. If you are not a Baptist, your posts get pushed to the "debate forum" to suggest you are debating when they are avoiding the truth and arguing with you. Or it gets moved to the "other religions" section. This is done to give the impression you are a debater or a fringe believer. The Roman Catholic popular forums are notorious for this as is IIDB.org, the largest atheist/agnostic forum on the Internet. They send your messages to the "~Elsewhere~" forums. I find this to be condescending. But that is how they operate. This is the way of censorship which does not promote Christ, but rather their own agendas, false division, and unBiblical denominational teaching. Such behavior is very disabling to the Church. This is really no different than the way the world operates in self-preservation, not knowing anything of the cross, burial and resurrection with Christ in baptism.

Fundamentalists 500 is locked into KJV onlyism. Messianic sites have certain legal requirements by their Judaizing Christianity, very much like the Pharisees of old. I have yet to find a forum that touches life. Every single forum I have come across without exception has a particular legal bent and agenda to promote that is not of God which is identified by the name they give themselves.

Christian Web-Masters, believe it or not, banned me. I later find out they are orthodoxy, meaning, they are heavily engaged in rituals, spiritual control, represented by the Pergamum church problem: Constantine higher tower married to the world. They are eastern orthodox. The owners of Web-Masters call themselves Antiochian. They partake in idols like the RCC and further the Judaizing of Christianity. Underneath it all that is what is happening in their pastoral system and corporation-style control by forsaking the church according to Biblical locality. They have created a bureaucracy, exceeding the number of levels of the church and have their own form of pope.

To give you some understanding of how such a banning can come about, it works like this. A moderator from their forum sees my website and says he disagrees with something on my forum, my site or something I have stated on his forum. Sometimes he says what it is, other times not. Quite often it has something to do with their being non-OSAS historicalists. Then I tell him why it is that he disagrees, what it is that he is holding onto in his flesh and how he is misreading the Word of God. He retaliates. I give him the truth of his mistaken assumption. Next thing you know, I am banned because these questions for apostles expose his true condition. That is that. That is basic pattern for all bannings.

christiansunite.com is christendom at its finest in filthy lucre commercialism and very anti-partial rapture. They are only comfortable with the common thoughts of the derivatives of historicalism and premillennial onlyisms - bantering back and forth in pan-tribulation rapture style-it will all pan out.

thebereans.net (owned by Justyn Abugain) are bipartite, calvinist, tritheistic and will ban you promptly if you expose these false teachings of theirs. They inordinately try to separate the Godhead to the point of error in misreading verses horribly-confusing the Father for the Son, for example. They are possessed with the pride of believing they were premade for salvation (calvinism). They are an anti-Nee fanatical also, as is Christiantalkzone.net, both creating a section of hostility towards falsely marrying Watchman Nee with the unregenerate and deceased cult leader Witness Lee. This is entirely unwarranted and unjustified. There is no reason to do this. It is a racist thing since Nee and Lee are polar opposites according to their views, and if Nee was alive today he would no doubt rebuke Witness Lee for such false teachings. Find out more about the Filipino Bereans whom do not represent, I hope, Filipino Christians. What happened with CTZ was I posted the truth of their mistaken assumption about W. Nee, and they banned me, deleting most of my posts and leaving just their thoughts. They quote he said, she said, third party views without quoting Watchman Nee himself. We should not sin bearing false witness against someone. You must prove your point by quoting the person.

I have impacted both thebereans.net and chistiantalkzone.net in a major way, so they have both created separate forums just for Watchman Nee in trying to marry him to Witness Lee. Vanity! They are diligent in their pursuit, having no consideration Nee was imprisoned the last 20 years of his life, thus, having no ability to deal with Witness Lee's cult startup. Yet, this is how quickly the flesh can activate itself after truth has been touched. It boggles the mind how they shut their minds down, such narrow minded tunnel vision, belligerency and already having made their minds up. This is how I know so few are getting into heaven by these types of actions for this is not the type of behavior that will occur in the new city or the new earth. What is most intriguing is underneath it all they are really holding onto calvinism as the root cause of such hostility and historicalism. Watchman Nee was osas arminian. Those at thebereans.net are ex-leeists. Lee was a calvinist. See Nee's writings on 1 Tim. 4 and his osas arminian view. This of course, greatly differs with the unregenerate Witness Lee, who was a calvinist modalist and even altered the tripartite nature of man in his writings by introducing violent screaming mantra. One can't help that it is a racist move against the Chinese in general.

carm.org. owned by Matt Slick is pentecostal, calvinist, amillennialist and quick in removing those who speak up against these false teachings. They will not say it to you up front, but concoct some rationalization and sugar-coat it up so it is palatable to themselves why they censored you. You can speak to Matt Slick about his false teachings, but he can't repent. Moderators here are highly calvinistic and amillennial. One moderator who moderatos their Bible Prophecy forum, John Stevenson, has no faith Jesus can return in Person to reign for a 1000 years. He thinks this time now of Hitler is a peace on earth and rewards for overcomers in Christ that God longed for. Yet Rev. 20.3 says in the 1000 years (vv.2-7) the nations will no longer be deceived-they will no longer war. Somebody needs to get a conscience!

TimeBombers is a non-OSAS bipartite forum and will quickly get rid of you if you believe in once-saved-always-saved, especially if you are able to show them the truth of their mistaken assumptions. I believe this forum is now defunct.

There are too many zombie calvinism forums out there (e.g. carm.org).

123 christianforums.net is really hostile to Watchman Nee. They produce all these articles by third parties against Watchman Nee. Then, I provide the specific responses to those third parties, preserved on the Misreading Nee page. Instead of repenting or discussing, they respond by banning me.

Hiding Place & Tim Warner's discussion forum. These two forums will kick you if you are not a post-trib premillennial onlyist, even if you present the truth humbly, confidently, accurately and lovingly about readiness at first rapture (Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36, Rev. 7.9, Matt. 24.40-41).

There are pretrib onlyist sites that will kick you like raptureready.com and tribulationforces.com. For many years now Rapture Ready will not let me onto their forum. It is poor verbeage to say the whole church is "rapture ready" at the first rapture while rejecting God's desire for us to be received to the throne according to readiness before the Tribulation commences. Not all Christians are ready at the first rapture. The term rapture ready is very deceitful coming from them because it means they are ready despite their lying on a bed of fornication. For them, there is no Tribulation. When they are actually in Tribulation, they will never realize it; thus, taking the mark of the beast.

christianity.com is amillennial based, affiliated with Salem Network which operates Crosswalk Forums. Salem Network and Christianity.com though two different sites share the same forum along with crossdaily.com. They define their "Vision" as the second largest Christendom forum in the world: "We are a for-profit religious corporation dedicated to building up the Church, which is the Body of Christ". That's an oxymoron. For-profit! How confused is the outward appearance of the kingdom now working for shareholders! They don't even try to hide their intentions to make money off of the body of Christ in the name of God. Bibledatase.org forums and this trio are probably the leaders of all the large forums in their censoring techniques. They are the great media engine for the Great Harlot of "religious Rome" (Rev. 17). Please note that when I was banned from the Salem Network (Crosswalk), I was also banned from Christianity.com and Crossdaily.com simultaneously. I was notified by email with the names of these organizations in the sub header, owned by the same corporation. They have created an Internet Community Alliance organization to monitor my whereabouts apparently. Big brother is watching for the sake of filthy lucre. Their arm and control is increasing. Be careful! It is through forums they propagate untruths.

bibleforums.org (bibledatabase.org) forced down peoples' throat the historicalist view and keeping the Sabbath as the Lord's day, even though the Sabbath was only a sign of covenant for Israel.  They ban profusely to that end. I recall too, I was removed for exposing calvinism. They prevent you from sending private messages to people (unless they have scoped you out good for a week and make sure your 10 posts agree with them), monitor your home site link vigilantly, and if you are not of their persuasion, you are gone. What I recommend you do is don't post your website in your profile, and keep your posts as generic as possible. Bibleforums.org have cornered themselves into a box. It is of no value to reach to them, for the owner is that far gone. Sometimes all you can do is let them be and let them realize how much they are trying to live under the law. Let's examine this cult more closely.

Not even one person on this particular forum could agree to the 8 points made below; that even though some say they have problems with denominations, they still could not accept the Church divided only according to locality as pointed out in in item 4. When I was banned a person with the handle, qbee, would requote me in her own words and make the claim that was my words, totally sinning the sin of bearing false witness. This is the nonsense that one endures on such forums. What you will need to do in order to get past their censoring walls is to not give a website link (which they are counting on), and also when discussing, you will need to stay within their tolerance level of not discussing certain things such as partial rapture or osas arminian. You will simply have to say the same thing but in a very low key fashion so it is under their radar. Feel your way through to see how to reach their hearts. The same method applies to christianforums.com. You will not be able to speak the direct truth in a simple fashion. You will even need to let them abuse you and not speak back against that abuse, otherwise you are gone. As you can see it is all quite demented, but that is what Christians endure, in helping others.

Bibleforums banned because of this post.

I believe in:

1) osas
2) arminian
3) premillennial last week consummation of this age
4) no denominations in the Bible
5) man having a spirit, soul, body; not just a soul and body
6) hell of eternal separation, non-annihilation
7) Mary born into sin
8) baptism with water or without

Does anyone agree with me?

christianforums.com is definitely against partial rapture. They have a poisoned spirit of dissension from calvinists killing the image God, even though man remains made in the image of God. You won't be able to post for too long without having your voice silenced when you speak up against some untruth such as posttrib onlyism of Erwin Loh. As you can see they are red blooded historicalists (either amillennial or posttrib onlyism). See the poll take take below. I was banned afterward. Over the years I have tried to come onto this forum and say a few short words regarding calvinism or locality. I am banned within a day or two. Other times I am banned after several hundred posts. They are not hostile to me the person, but the truth I hold in my heart, abiding in God's Word. Take for example these post that were my last posts before being banned.

I don't think calvinism has anything to do with Paul's epistles showing predestination by foreknowledge, since we are not totally deprave, as we still retain the right to choose; we are not unconditionally elected, because our election is dependant on our choosing then grace coming in. Atonement is universal for Jesus died for the sins of the world, but only those who accept His salvation receive His grace. Therefore, we can resist His grace by not cooperating and accepting John 3.16,18. The saints are preserved because once we receive eternal life it is eternal, though not because of any false teaching of unconditional atonement or irresistible preservation, since we retain the image of God which means we are never totally deprave in the first place and thus have a choice which He foreknows. We are fallen yes, but not totally deprave. Amen to that!

(posted on May 3, 2005).

 

The solution for the Work and the Church is according to locality as seen in the Scriptures: the church of Ephesus in the churches of Asia minor, or the church of Jerusalem in the churches of Judea, or the church of Fresno in the churches of California. Informal apostles select elders for each of these localities or remote areas. Each locality is just a few people in a remote area or even millions of people in a Biblical city. All differences are resolved in a locality and not spread beyond that locality by a denomination. In order to prevent any misuse there are several elders per locality and often times the regional informal apostles will come by to help resolve differences by giving advice.

(posted May 3, 2005).

They are concealing these truths. In another example, there were two threads called "Why I don't believe in Pre-trib rapture" and "Why I don't believe in Post-trib rapture". After 70 posts in the first thread, I was banned. After only 5 posts in the second thread, then I was banned. This is just more evidence that this is an historicalist and posttrib onlyism forum.

Watchman Nee describes in The Rapture Proof in section IV. F the puffiness of historicalism and posttrib onlyism; taking away the hope of the church. Other evidences are observed. I discovered there is a lot of angst by the moderators at the raptureready.com Left Behind forums against christianforums.com though for the wrong reason. The angst is misplaced since the teachings by the ownership of both forums are wrong. Posttrib onlyism rejects first rapture unto readiness, rewards and accountability, but so does the Left Behind series' forums (pretrib onlyism). Historicalists and Romanists reject rewards and accountability also from the majority RCC administrators of christianforums.com. If you want to have one word to describe these false teachings, it is called antinomianism in which they claim they accept redemption, but there is not the concurrent co-crucifixion with Christ reflecting correct doctrine. That's why they continue to argue and ban each other.

A further analysis of Erwin Loh shows a hodgepodge of confusion in his thinking. Historicalism and calvinism tend to be complicated in mental gymanstics to cover up the holes in these false teachings. To prove that christianforums.com is calvinistically moderated, I conducted a poll at their site.

 

View Poll Results: Are you a Calvinist, Arminian, or something else?
This poll will close on 22nd July 2005 at 04:32 PM
Calvinist (believing in being premade for salvation)	14	46.67%
Arminian (usually OSAS)	2	6.67%
Something else (RCC, EOC; open theism-a god without infinite foreknowledge)	14	46.67%

Incidentals

Church of Fools and Ship of Fools do not appear to be Christian forums for I have been on these forums several times, and each time you get a barrage of attacks against the Bible's inerrancy. It is very much like the feel you get when you go to Internet Infidels, an atheist/agnostic, forum which is obviously hostile to the risen Lord Jesus Christ. Someone once noted that being a fool for Christ is not the meaning used by these two forums. In fact, the very meaning of being on a sinking ship or church of fools is indicative of depression, dejection, and despondency. That is personality trait at these two forums in U.K., but not the fruit of the Spirit.

HighwayForum (calvinist), MountainRetreat (calvinist), TheologyOnline (open theism, which simply believes that God does not have foreknowledge of our free-choice). TheologyForums are pre-trib onlyists and stiff calvinists who are convinced calvinism is orthodox Christianity. We are not saved by thinking we were premade for salvation, and the fruit of this thought proves that you do not have the Holy Spirit since the Holy Spirit does not teach this in your spirit to think that God premade you for heaven, while others premade for hell. How evil! J. Dyer, one of the owners of this forum who is a calvinist, banned me for exposing calvinism. It's like Satan saying, "You have exposed my wiles and trickeries of calvinism. I will now have to silence your voice so I can continue to do my work of deceiving and making people believe they are saved another way." This must be one of Satan's greatest ploys. Imagine convincing a man he is saved all his life yet still never received a regenerated spirit. How tragic. Worthy Boards teaches calvinism and false locality.

The moderator, Tom Smedley, who moderates crosswalk forums is a mystical allegorical historicalist. I am banned from most major charismatic and pentecostal forums, even a non-Christian ex-pentecostal forum. I tried to show them how their approach is wrong for an unregenerated man can't help an unregenerated Pentecostal. They are both unregenerates. I am banned at athiest sites such as Internet Infidels. I can't get a edge word in at all to help them, for as soon as they discover you are real Christian, you're booted. theologyweb.com are into preterism, so I am banned. There is a website that is preterist saying it is the owner of this forum. They sin bearing false witness against Watchman Nee in the "bill the cat" episode.

philosophia Christi (the admin is Westmin) are into calvinism and the fallen bipartite view. They are especially hard in their hearts which would account for why their forum is so dead. They are part of the ezBoards network. I'm even banned from the Watchman Nee Yahoo Forum. Why? It is because I was looking for some information which inadvertently offended the leeists there who complained. It's not really a Watchman Nee forum, since it is overrun by leeists who disagree with Watchman Nee's beliefs. The owner, Traugott-Jacques, would prefer the leeists as his followers which requires accepting the 6 major sins of leeism.

sermonIndex.net is a calvinist organization. It is an alliance member Gospelcom.net which is also an intensely calvinist organization. Anyway, sermonindex moderators were defending leeists (also calvinists) when I found them swarming the place and trying to marry themselves to Watchman Nee, yet they say they have advanced knowledge exceeding that of Nee's writings. No they don't, for they altered his writings and think opposite to what he believes. They have not introduced an improved thought, but rather that which is diabolically opposite in the 6 major sins of leeism. Doing my due diligence, I gave the truth of their mistaken assumptions; then I was banned so I could not view their website at all. The underlying cause for this banning in particular was because of the truth of Biblical locality, which the owner of this website could not accept; nor partial rapture, osas arminian and triparite man. The sermonindex forum promotes those such as T. Austin Sparks who, against God's will, reject Biblical locality, thus dividing the body of Christ falsely.

Summary

Historicalism is a killer of the millennial reign of Christ in Person and the solemn warning at the end of this age so they can not know the wrath of God or believe in accountability in the time of recompense. Non-OSAS tries to destroy eternal life. Denominations are killers of Biblical locality. Calvinists are killers of free-choice made in the image of God so that God can grace with His life. Pretrib onlyism tries to destroy readiness with a false hope and no reward. Posttrib onlyism takes away hope, reward, readiness; looks toward the Antichrist first in their lives since for them he must come first ahead of Christ.

Pentecostal gibberish babble and the fallen bipartite view are killers of praying in the spirit to replace true communion of the Holy Spirit with mediums & confusing the spirit and soul. The RCC is increasingly marrying itself to this practice in what is called the Third-Wave Movement.

As you can see the list is long, so this seems like a good place to stop. Let us keep to these 5 deeper truths of osas arminian, partial rapture, gap restoration, tripartite man and Biblical locality. Let us reclaim the first love that was lost in the first century.

Love, in Christ,

Troy Brooks