Introduction

To the best of my knowledge, everything I have said here is the truth. If I have made any mistake, please correct me here. I did a search at CF on Oct. 6, 2006 for "futurist" or "premillennial", "Christian" and "Gap," and there were only three souls that were active (posted in the last 6 months) that popped up of 165,024 accounts. Please do not tell me there is not an active effort at this Roman Church forum to eradicate these spiritual Christians! I have realized myself in looking to find these Christians at CF it is like looking for a needle in a haystack because Satan has been blocking the coming together of correct teaching. And the person directly responsible for this blocking is Erwin Loh doing Satan's bidding.

What do you think we can do about this problem?

In reading Revelation 17, one realizes we can't do anything about their system because only Christ has that power to destroy it when He returns. And by extension, to look for believers there is also futile. One does not find peace by immersing themselves in a boiling pot of hostilities and seemingly endless contradictions.

One way to get to the bottom of Erwin's beliefs besides the obvious observations of mostly the Roman Catholic adherents as administrators is to interpolate. If the majority is Roman Catholic, then the majority would be amillennialism and non-OSAS. But God's way of salvation is OSAS, and premillennial is God's eschatology (esp. partial rapture-Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36), otherwise known as chiliasm in the first century.

May we simply ask the questions:

• 1) Does Erwin accept that we our tripartite in nature?

• 2) Does Erwin believe in the gap theory?

• 3) Does Erwin accept that Revelation 17 is speaking about Roman Catholicism, religious Rome (see Rev. 14.8), which God says will be destroyed in the coming Tribulation?

• 4) Does Erwin believe the apostles such as Paul appointed elders of a locality such as Ephesus?

• 5) Does Erwin believe in once-saved-always-saved?

• 6) Does Erwin accept that God predestinates by foreknowing our free choice (osas arminian, Rom. 8.29) made in His image: a conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, for preservation of the saints? Or is he calvinistic, thinking he was premade for salvation while others were premade for hell?

• 7) Does Erwin believe Mary was sinless?

• 8) Does Erwin believe in transubstantiation?

• 9) Does Erwin believe in intermediary priesthood of the RCC?

• 10) Does Erwin believe in purgatory?

• 11) Does Erwin believe in paying for indulgences?

• 12) If Erwin does not believe the RCC teachings, then why is the RCC the major administrative body of CF, or is Erwin just a popularist? Has the Roman Catholic authorities paid Erwin to be in control? How could we ever follow such a money trail?

• 13) When the Bible says not to say "I of Cephas" (denomininational) nor "I of Christ" (non-denominational), then why does Erwin think it acceptable to divide the body of Christ falsely and call himself "non-denominational" instead of accepting the principle of the first love when the apostles appointed elders of localities such as Ephesus or Philippi or Jerusalem or Antioch in their respect region of churches? Why are the "Messianic Jews" denomination the second largest administrator group; does it have something to do with Ryan Swift?

• 14) Does Erwin also, like the RCC, add books to the 66 books of God's Word?

If we are to participate on Erwin's forum, brothers and sisters in Christ would like to know the answer to these questions and no longer be given the runaround? That would seem reasonable. If Erwin simply doesn't know because he has been spending most his time on degrees and programming, then that is one thing, but Christians deserve to know this information who is exactly in control of CF?

Reading Private Messages

By first hand experience, Erwin Loh's RC forums actually read your private messages. I have been banned on several occasions solely from private messages. If you send a message to yourself that which they wish to censor will be covered over with "[Wash your mouth]" (as of October, 2006) even though you said nothing wrong, but they don't want that information in your private message. The private message gets flagged. They read it. Then you get banned especially if there is a history of a person they are hostile to in the Church. vBulletin has an add-on that let's them do this. Erwin would know how to program this easily anyway. This is very unethical, akin to reading a person's email. I would never do this at Biblocality Christian Forums; my conscience in the Holy Spirit would never allow it.

The Open Plymouth Brethren

The reason why the Open Plymouth Brethren, represented as the Philadelphia church period, are not included in the denominations at CF under "Congregations" is because in fact, the Brethren Movement desired only to be called Christians and to not divide the body of Christ needlessly or for special teachings.

The Open Plymouth Brethren were not the Exclusive Brethren by the way, since the latter were not Open.

The local assemblies (according to governmental boundaries as cities) of the Open Brethren was such that the unit of the church (a local expression of the church of a city) was to remain uncompromised. Differences would be resolved within. For example, two competing doctrines can exist in the same church of London, but those issues would be resolved unto the church of London alone and not be spread to other churches (i.e. cities). Nor would there be isolated and competing denominations (exceeding the boundary of the church locales) or non-denominations (too small a scope) or a legion of multi-denoms (excessively ecumenical and seeking after popularity). Such entities are not congregations, that is meeting places, but are man-made systems that either exalt a meeting place (non-denom) and not the church locale, or try to go beyond (with denoms or multi-denoms) what God has designed (Biblical localities).

The reason why God disallows a central command and control of denominational styled corporations (or exalting a non-denom congregation and attempts at excessive ecumenical multi-denom aspirations) is because God knows the flesh all too well! These points to men or a man who started these false divisions, and not God, by saying "I am of Cephas" or "I am of Apollos", and in the case of non-denoms, saying "I am of Christ" to puff up self. Nor should you say "I am of Cephas and Apollos" as multi-denom oriented to exalt self and self's business.

It is quite easy to see through these ways of men, but God will put them to naught in due coarse. CF will be destroyed eventually, for the agenda of Erwin Loh will not escape judgment by God as Erwin desires either to sell his CF business one day for a windfall or to rack up major advertising revenues, like the money changers in the Temple, in a place that should have been a house of God. What is started in the Spirit, if it was, should not have been continued in the flesh.

Judaizing Christianity

What is it about these particular words do you think causes the administrators of CF to ban a person, for that is exactly what happened on Aug. 3, 2006 without reason, but simply quoted this and said it was blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

According to Acts 15.22, at the council in Jerusalem the apostles and elders were all present. If the Sabbath day was important, surely it would have been taken up and decided on by the council. But this was not addressed. For the law and the prophets prophesied until John. Christ is now the sum of the law. Hence in the New Testament there is no command that we need to keep the Sabbath day. In Colossians we are told that the Sabbath day has passed away. Paul also maintained—in Romans 14—that to keep or esteem a day or not is something optional.  

Nothing in the New Covenant needs to be completed with the help of the Old Covenant. The Roman Church teaches that keeping the Lord’s Day is keeping the Sabbath day of Christianity. Yet this is to blend together Judaism and Christianity. Here come the Judaizers who try to bring the entire system of Judaism into Christianity. Yet if we must keep the Sabbath day, then we are no longer Christians. By accepting the Jewish system, we drop the status of being Christians and turn into pure Jews—even as the apostle Paul declared: “Ye observe days, and months, and seasons, and years. I am afraid of you, lest by any means I have bestowed labor upon you in vain” (Gal. 4.10-11).

I am just left with the thought, crazy world doesn't want to accept such basic truths!

666

Did you know (January 29, 2006) at christianforums.com, the main colors used are #339999, #993366, #660066, #993366 and #336699. In the event that Erwin Loh (its owner) changes these colors in the future, I wanted to preserve the numbers he chose for the mark of the beast (666). Surely this was not a coincidence with millions of colors to chose from. Erwin knows full well this verse: "Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six." Which man? The mark of the beast points to Neron Kaiser which equals 666 in Aramaic in the language Christ spoke.

My desire is to speak the truth and nothing more with love. The Lord has placed it on my heart to speak these words for those who hath an ear to hear, to look underneath, so that they may not be overcome by error. I do not wish for these forums to be dismantled, but rather for its owner to have a change of mind. He is solely responsible and in control.

It operates in the outward appearance of the kingdom of heaven, but its owner is not born-again, for he has no desire to accept authority in God's kingdom and will ban those with authority in the Work for the Church. Instantly, this should indicate to you to Erwin Loh points towards himself as the center. Give me an opportunity to prove this, and accept what God says: we shall know them by their fruit. We know what the 19 Administrators of the largest Christendom forum on the internet really believe which is predominantly Roman Catholic.

I have been banned no less than thirty times from this forum with no valid reason. Sometimes I am banned after 10 posts, other times after 200 posts. Usually, they could not know it was me so they let me stay at least until I don't bring up certain subjects noted below. It is because I can prove these truths in the Word that convict them, so what else can they do but ban me since their repentance will not be forthcoming. Other times they realize it is me because after some time, I post my webpage in the proper box. The reaction of those in control behave this way no matter which computer I use. They are against certain teachings in the Word so they seek to rationalize them away by passing blame and censoring spiritual truths and discernment by the Holy Spirit. The pattern is consistent: once they realize it is me or the teaching which has the ability to expose their teaching, the banning immediately follows and usually all posts pertaining to that account. Their actions come from the top-down.

Would you like an alternative to their false teachings? Try out Biblocality Forums, and enjoy the correct teaching.

The Teaching

Let us be an open book for the Lord. When people get banned it is for one of two reasons: 1) either the person being banned is wrong and deserves to be banned, or 2) the person being banned is right, but the banner does not want to accept the truth revealed, so he bans to cover up the truth and remain in his flesh.

I can only tell you the truth about how I was banned and what others experience. From this knowledge you can see what they are against as well as what they are for. The causes for being banned are as follows which reveals their teaching.

1) What I teach is partial rapture in the Word, that is, bringing together pre+post and removing this dissension. If a Christian keeps the Word of His patience (Rev. 3.10), he may escape the Hour of trial to be accounted worthy (Luke 21.36). Some will be raptured at first rapture before the throne (7.9). Those "alive" and "left" will be raptured at the last trumpet (1 Thess. 4.15-17). This hour of this trial that is to come upon the whole world which is the last seven in Daniel's prophecy is called the Tribulation. The last 42 months are the Great Tribulation. Following is the millennial kingdom. Historicalism is the belief that the millennial kingdom is now, even though Rev. 20.3 says the nations will no longer be deceived. That is, there is no war! The lamb and lion lay down side by side in the regeneration of the world - Matt. 19.28. This is the time of recompense unto rewards and accountability. In historicalism this is not taught so as not to be accountable and disallow rewards for overcoming in Christ. Therefore, we find the premillennial view destroys historicalist view (amill., post-mill., preterisms). A poll was taken in 2004 which showed more than 90% are historicalists at christianforums.com (note: post-trib onlyism is considered historicalism, in a sense, because it claims an inordinately large portion of Revelation is already fulfilled also). Yet, historicalism is a false teaching through mental gymnastics and allegorical ever changing views. It's all over the place trying to figure out when the 1260 days started because they believe in the year-day theory. If the year-day theory were true then 1000 years would be 365,000 years in Rev. 20.2-7. Surely, Christ won't take this long to return. Will sin last that long?

Satan likes to do anything he can to make it seem like a book of revelation for the future is already fulfilled. Not too long ago 6 million Jews were killed in a few short years. How could we ever accept the 1000 years is happening now considering the likes of Hitler, Alexander, Nero, Stalin, Napoleon, Pol Pot. And there are rapists, criminals, false prophets and false Christ all around us still today. Is this the millennial peace depicted in Rev. 20? Of course not. The way to lower peoples' consciences is to claim what is going to happen has already happened or is happening right now which also blunts the most solemn warning at the end of this age. Man's idea is that social reforms (post-mill.) by men can solve the problem without the return of Christ since they don't really believe. The parousia of Christ begins at first rapture through the 7 trumpets of the Tribulation, then a last trumpet resurrection takes place (1 Cor. 15.23) before the bowls of the last trumpet. Afterward Christ will return with His overcomer believers (Jude 14,15) when He step down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7). The army in Rev. 9.16 (200 million machine army in the middle east) is dismantled and the mass death in 9.18 (one third of the people of the earth die in short period of time) is no more.

2) God's way of salvation is according to the principles of osas arminian - the belief that we are made in God's image, and God foreknow our free-choice when to grace us with His life. For these are the ones He wants to be with who authentically come to the cross to receive the gift of eternal life. God predestinates by foreknowledge (Rom. 8.29), not by premaking robots to be passively controlled. God takes glory in allowing man, who is made in His image, to choose the cross to be with those who love Him. This is what He wants which He shall have, and we love Him for it. A poll was taken in 2005 at christianforums.com in which over 95% describe themselves as calvinist, calvinist derivative or open theist. All 5 points of calvinism are wrong and so is open theism which claims God does not have infinite foreknowledge. Even the 5th point of calvinism is false because they believe they are eternally secure by being premade that way to choose, not by being made in the image of God to have the right to choose. God does not premake people for hell. This is evil. God does not premake people for heaven either. This is actually no less evil, since God does not premake zombies. This could never glorify God. If you ever wonder why calvinists are so hard headed it is because they do not have a quickened spirit. They will-worship by their own strength through mental gymnastics instead of falling on their knees before God. There those the tares who try to look the wheat in Matthew 13.

3) I have spoken of Rev. 14.8 and the Rev. 17 about the woman who sits on the beast that makes drunk the nations with the wine of the wrath of her fornications. This woman is "religious Rome" - the RCC. God will destroy it at His return for its bad conduct and false teachings such the sinless co-redemptrix, paying for indulgences, amillennialism, purgatory, adding books to the Bible, not allowing women to be Apostles and Elders, exceeding the boundary of Biblical locality, intermediary priesthood, many levels of hierarchy, popery, idols, and Judaizing Christianity with physical buildings, written codes and earthly promises.

4) Biblical locality simply refers to the first century principle of the regional apostles who choose elders to take care of Biblical localities, e.g. church of Corinth, church of Ephesus, church of Jerusalem, church of Dallas, church of Boston, church of Moscow, church of Hong Kong. We are not allowed to talk about this at christianforums.com. Men prefer the dissension of the dividing the body of Christ falsely for their denomination or for the sake of one's own forum to gain more popularity in the world. The only way God divides the Church is according to Biblical locality, that first love that was lost in the first century. See how the church made various errors through the centuries in independent movements by men who started denominations, non-denominations and congregations. Never say "I am of Cephas" and "I am of Apollos," for these are the actions of denominationalists and congregationalists. Don't even say "I am of Christ" to divide non-denominationally. This too is wrong.

5) Tripartite man: we are made up of spirit, soul and body according to Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23. Our inner man is our spirit with the functions of intuition, communion and conscience which possessed God-consciousness. Our outer man is our soul (mind, will and emotion) and body (physical sensing). The soul has self-consciousness and the body world-consciousness. In the spirit of man God's Spirit indwells. God does not indwell man's soul. Spirit makes contact with spirit, not first the soulical. After the spirit receives God's leading in the inner man or inner woman, what we receive spiritually can be communicated to the outer man of the soul and body. The bipartite view is the view of the fallen man.

6) Creation was made perfect in Gen. 1.1, but because of earth's earliest ages of sin, it was made desolate and waste in Gen. 1.2. Then God restored earth (called the restoration gap) in the six summary days.

The Administrators

Check this post out that caused me to be banned. It's ironic because the Roman Catholic Church is non-OSAS Arminian.

Why can't calvinists repent from calvinism? - the pride of believing they were premade for salvation like robots, or in other words, preprogrammed to choose. Why can't calvinists see this does not glorify God of the Bible?

Why can't calvinists love God's will to walk with those whom He predestinates by foreseeing (Rom. 8.29) who will come to the cross as helpless sinners, not by premaking us that way? Experientially Christians have discovered calvinists are blocked from accepting the truth: their consciences do not seem to have been quickened and thus will-worship in their depravity.

God does not give salvation arbitrarily irresistibly, limitedly, or unconditionally, but rather in the universal atonement offered, if man refuses God's grace he can resist the conditional offer of God's free gift.

God has infinite foreknowledge of when to give eternal life which is eternal at new birth. And though man is fallen he is not totally deprave otherwise he could never choose the cross that God asks us to choose, from being made in the image of God, so He can save.

For anyone who has read this will you pray with me for the calvinists! Let us pray for them so they be delivered. Even one lost soul is a great loss.

Posting something similar is also removed, so the discussion is not allowed to happen. The moderators are told by Erwin Loh to curtail this discussion about this problem because calvinism is the faith of Ewrin Loh, at least that is what he is telling us by banning such posts. The moderators try various ways to sin bearing false witness when passing blame, just like the great accuse who is vague and coy. For example, they might try to say, "it is wrong to state all calvinists are unsaved," but I never said this. Not all calvinists are saved. Even most would not be. But I did not say they are all unsaved. The same censoring occurs when discussing historicalism, dividing falsely by denominations and congregations, religious Rome and our being tripartite. And the restoration gap theory is non-RC also.

The Holy Spirit is Needed

Erwin Loh is locked in his ways and will not have a "change of mind" (repent). He is too stubborn, harboring untruths and simply too busy with the many hats he wears. What value is it to gain the world if you lose your soul in spreading yourself thin which then produces false teaching and misconduct?

Why ban in the first place? Why sin bearing false witness? Why accuse of being religious? Normally, when one is deeply led by the Holy Spirit in the truth, they will be accused of being religious. The accusers accuse because they are jealous. Their consciences' have been convicted, but they prefer to remain in the flesh as though their faith is not real. This approach is unloving and does not give glory to God!

My prayer is you don't let wise men of the world deceive you! There is a sense of desperation of trying to get rid of the person: "maybe it will help your attempts to reach people on other forums". Surely, those that need help are those who are being led down the wrong path at Erwin's forum. They say the devil is in the details. Yet, the truth is in the details. Therefore, we should deal specifically and not circumvent issues. Satan operates through vagaries. Often the most protected by the world are those who are the most vague in their conduct so as not to receive judgment or examination, which is crafty and cunning; this is not God's way since God deals directly. The cunning and the couth are no match for the wisdom of God.

The Truth Can Not Be Spoken

For example, this was posted and was disallowed, though no untruth was spoken:

There is much in the world that goes by the name of the house of God. The great historic Churches and denominations all claim that title. We would all agree that the Roman Catholic Church ("the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication...THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" Rev. 17.4,6) is a false house, based on a wrong principle of authority and built largely of dead bricks and not of living stones. The Protestant Church, in as far as it is evangelical, has more life. In it are many living stones, but they are individual and not united. Liberty of conscience is its speciality. There is much splendid material, but it is not built into a house. But quietly, in many places and largely unseen, God is raising up a vessel which is truly His house. It consists not of single outstanding individuals, whether great in preaching or revival or anything else, but in humble men and women who have been welded into one by the Cross. Shechem must become Bethel. God must deliver us from the whole principle of individualism. He must save us from wanting to be outstanding individual Christians, and somehow make us one in His house. For it is the house of God that is His witness in the earth. Everyone knows how difficult it is for Christians to live together! When by the grace of God it happens, and continues to happen, even hell takes notice. But let us be careful. Is God's house a principle to be followed, or a life to be lived? Is it something to copy, or something to be? It would be easy, having seen the value of life together, to determine at all costs to apply the principles by which it should work. But this would not achieve the result. We must have the life of the Body, the shared life of Christ that comes from Him as Head, before we can abide by its principles. They cannot just be learned.

The harlot is either too presumptuous or too wicked. Though their conscience is not enlightened by God, the nations of the world cannot tolerate the practices of the Roman Church, such as,

• that after the bread is blessed by the priest it somehow is transubstantiated into the body of the Lord,

• that only the priests can read the Bible, popery,

• hierarchy of clergy many levels above the 3 main workers (Apostles for a region, Elders of a locality and Elders of meeting places in a locality),

• that confession must be made to the priests,

• that of the inquisition,

• rejecting women apostles and women elders,

• the selling of indulgences flourish,

• non-OSAS, having no faith God gives eternal life at new birth, and

• amillennialism, the teaching that we are in a millennial peace now, and the book of Revelation is mostly fulfilled even though there is still war and despite the Bible saying in Rev. 20, the nations will no longer be deceived in the 1000 years: "deceive the nations no more" (v.3). Nor has a "third part of trees was burnt up" (8.7), nor a "third part of the sea became blood" (8.8), nor a "third part of the ships were destroyed" (8.9), nor has a "third part of the rivers" been fallen upon (8.9), nor has a "third part of the waters became wormwood" (8.11), nor has a "third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise" (8.12). Nor has there been yet an army amassed in the middle east "two hundred thousand thousand" (Rev. 9.16), nor a "third part of men killed" (v.18) of earth. Evidence is not lacking. What is lacking is authentic salvation and humility which gives us correct teaching.

• worse of all, having no faith to believe Jesus Christ can return in Person to reign on Earth with His overcomer believers for the millennial kingdom (Jude 14,15; Rev. 20.2-7).

Yet there are many other mean and treacherous acts practiced by her which even the nations cannot stand which causes her to be allowed to be destroyed in the Tribulation. God will allow this. It is even His wrath. It is an inevitability so that there is no trace of her in the millennial reign with an iron rod (mentioned 3 times in Revelation). On the other hand, because of her good, since in the Roman Church there can yet be found such truths taught as the Trinity, Jesus the Son of God, the Virgin Birth, the belief in the Lord’s death, resurrection and ascension, and so forth, she still belongs to Christ in name, and therefore the nations hate her and do away with her. According to God's divine providence none can stop what is going to happen to the Roman Catholic Church, for "she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication" (Rev. 14.8). 

There is a school of thought which maintains that Babylon points only to political Rome, not to religious Rome. This concept, though, is erroneous. If Babylon only refers to political Rome, why should “fallen” be mentioned twice in Rev. 14.8 and 16.19? For the event represented by the word “fallen” in 14.8 happens before the setting up of the image of the beast; therefore it is an event occurring during the first three and a half years. But the “fallen” (“fell”) told about in 16.19 takes place at the time of the seventh bowl, that is to say, after the setting up of the image of the beast. Hence there must be two different aspects of Babylon in view. This fits in perfectly with both religious Rome (since “Babylon” means confusion, and this confusion prevails in the realm of religion) and political Rome (since “Rome” in Hebrew means “the one who exalts himself”, and how she exalts herself in opposition to God).

Pray for the soon return of Christ to dismantle religious Rome when His parousia begins at the start of the last week consummation of this age at first rapture (Rev. 3.10,7.9; Luke 21.36). Praise the Lord for this discernment!

Wikipedia's Page for christianforums.com

At Wikipedia, when I add a link or post a comment for the page on christianforums.com about "Erwin Loh's beliefs" or a link to a proper Christian forum without those beliefs, it is censored out and they ban the IP address. However, they allow other comments that are positive and a link to "God's Little Forum" to further the agenda of Erwin Loh.

These specific false teachings of their administrators is concealed and covered up. The way cults work is they make it appear on the surface that there is nothing wrong with them, but when you get into their actual beliefs, you find out what they are really about and what they really believe. They disallow the truth as though the person volunteering to moderate for Wikipedia specifically for the page on christianforums.com is an administrator of christianforums.com itself. In effect this is what is happening. Quite biased don't you think?

See how the world works, even those who operate in the outward appearance of the kingdom of heaven? It is control to defend their false teachings. They will stop at nothing to further their agendas. There is nothing you can do to stop them. They control their sphere of influence. Let us be thankful when Christ returns, their end is a surety and God places the Church today as sojourners passing through. Do not be upset by the ways of the world because these ways will be destroyed, and there is nothing Erwin Loh can do about it.

Conclusion

The above described behavior and teaching of the administrators and moderators at christianforums.com will be its downfall. In as much as this is a prophetic message, a person can change, even Erwin Loh; but the Bible says religious Rome will not change. Christ will need to return to destroy not only political Rome, but also religious Rome. Praise the Lord!

Peace and love in Christ,

Troy